1 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:31,189 Welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome to 2 00:00:31,189 --> 00:00:31,199 Welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome to 3 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:33,270 Welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome to last week tonight. I'm John Oliver. 4 00:00:33,270 --> 00:00:33,280 last week tonight. I'm John Oliver. 5 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,350 last week tonight. I'm John Oliver. Thank you so much for joining us. It has 6 00:00:35,350 --> 00:00:35,360 Thank you so much for joining us. It has 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,430 Thank you so much for joining us. It has been a busy week. March Madness got 8 00:00:37,430 --> 00:00:37,440 been a busy week. March Madness got 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,110 been a busy week. March Madness got underway. Mark Wayne Mulling cleared the 10 00:00:39,110 --> 00:00:39,120 underway. Mark Wayne Mulling cleared the 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,869 underway. Mark Wayne Mulling cleared the first hurdle to become head of DHS. And 12 00:00:40,869 --> 00:00:40,879 first hurdle to become head of DHS. And 13 00:00:40,879 --> 00:00:42,470 first hurdle to become head of DHS. And of course, the conflict in Iran 14 00:00:42,470 --> 00:00:42,480 of course, the conflict in Iran 15 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:44,470 of course, the conflict in Iran continued. Now, despite relentless 16 00:00:44,470 --> 00:00:44,480 continued. Now, despite relentless 17 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:46,630 continued. Now, despite relentless bombing, the US has been unable to stop 18 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:46,640 bombing, the US has been unable to stop 19 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,310 bombing, the US has been unable to stop Iran striking targets around the region 20 00:00:48,310 --> 00:00:48,320 Iran striking targets around the region 21 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,990 Iran striking targets around the region and blocking the straight of Hormuz. The 22 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:50,000 and blocking the straight of Hormuz. The 23 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,790 and blocking the straight of Hormuz. The news hasn't been great. So, on Thursday, 24 00:00:52,790 --> 00:00:52,800 news hasn't been great. So, on Thursday, 25 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,630 news hasn't been great. So, on Thursday, Secretary Pete Hexth decided to speak to 26 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:54,640 Secretary Pete Hexth decided to speak to 27 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,270 Secretary Pete Hexth decided to speak to the American public directly. I stand 28 00:00:57,270 --> 00:00:57,280 the American public directly. I stand 29 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,510 the American public directly. I stand here today speaking to you, the American 30 00:01:01,510 --> 00:01:01,520 here today speaking to you, the American 31 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,110 here today speaking to you, the American people, 32 00:01:03,110 --> 00:01:03,120 people, 33 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,670 people, not through filters, not through 34 00:01:05,670 --> 00:01:05,680 not through filters, not through 35 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,190 not through filters, not through reporters, 36 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:07,200 reporters, 37 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,070 reporters, not through cable news spin. Yes, there 38 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:10,080 not through cable news spin. Yes, there 39 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,630 not through cable news spin. Yes, there are reporters in front of me, but they 40 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:12,640 are reporters in front of me, but they 41 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,149 are reporters in front of me, but they are not our audience today. It's you, 42 00:01:16,149 --> 00:01:16,159 are not our audience today. It's you, 43 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:19,429 are not our audience today. It's you, the good, decent, patriotic American 44 00:01:19,429 --> 00:01:19,439 the good, decent, patriotic American 45 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:23,429 the good, decent, patriotic American people. you, the hardworking, taxpaying, 46 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:23,439 people. you, the hardworking, taxpaying, 47 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:26,390 people. you, the hardworking, taxpaying, god-fearing American patriots. 48 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:26,400 god-fearing American patriots. 49 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,950 god-fearing American patriots. >> Okay, set aside Hexest whole vibe there, 50 00:01:28,950 --> 00:01:28,960 >> Okay, set aside Hexest whole vibe there, 51 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:30,950 >> Okay, set aside Hexest whole vibe there, which is very, welcome to my birthday 52 00:01:30,950 --> 00:01:30,960 which is very, welcome to my birthday 53 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:33,429 which is very, welcome to my birthday dinner. One of you has been poisoned. 54 00:01:33,429 --> 00:01:33,439 dinner. One of you has been poisoned. 55 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:35,429 dinner. One of you has been poisoned. You actually don't need to announce who 56 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:35,439 You actually don't need to announce who 57 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:36,950 You actually don't need to announce who you are and aren't speaking to. There's 58 00:01:36,950 --> 00:01:36,960 you are and aren't speaking to. There's 59 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:38,310 you are and aren't speaking to. There's a reason I don't start this show by 60 00:01:38,310 --> 00:01:38,320 a reason I don't start this show by 61 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:40,230 a reason I don't start this show by saying welcome, welcome, welcome. 62 00:01:40,230 --> 00:01:40,240 saying welcome, welcome, welcome. 63 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,710 saying welcome, welcome, welcome. this studio audience. I wish they'd jump 64 00:01:42,710 --> 00:01:42,720 this studio audience. I wish they'd jump 65 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,069 this studio audience. I wish they'd jump into the HUDSON RIVER. IF THEY DON'T 66 00:01:44,069 --> 00:01:44,079 into the HUDSON RIVER. IF THEY DON'T 67 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:45,670 into the HUDSON RIVER. IF THEY DON'T LAUGH, that's on them. Anyway, it's been 68 00:01:45,670 --> 00:01:45,680 LAUGH, that's on them. Anyway, it's been 69 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,550 LAUGH, that's on them. Anyway, it's been a busy week. I might think it, but I'd 70 00:01:48,550 --> 00:01:48,560 a busy week. I might think it, but I'd 71 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,710 a busy week. I might think it, but I'd never say it. 72 00:01:50,710 --> 00:01:50,720 never say it. 73 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,109 never say it. Hex seemed particularly frustrated at 74 00:01:53,109 --> 00:01:53,119 Hex seemed particularly frustrated at 75 00:01:53,119 --> 00:01:54,870 Hex seemed particularly frustrated at the press pointing out parallels between 76 00:01:54,870 --> 00:01:54,880 the press pointing out parallels between 77 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,469 the press pointing out parallels between this conflict and the wars that 78 00:01:56,469 --> 00:01:56,479 this conflict and the wars that 79 00:01:56,479 --> 00:01:58,709 this conflict and the wars that America's been stuck in in the past. 80 00:01:58,709 --> 00:01:58,719 America's been stuck in in the past. 81 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:02,709 America's been stuck in in the past. This is not those wars. 82 00:02:02,709 --> 00:02:02,719 This is not those wars. 83 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:06,069 This is not those wars. President Trump knows better. 84 00:02:06,069 --> 00:02:06,079 President Trump knows better. 85 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:08,550 President Trump knows better. Epic Theory is different. It's laser 86 00:02:08,550 --> 00:02:08,560 Epic Theory is different. It's laser 87 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,949 Epic Theory is different. It's laser focused. It's decisive. To the patriotic 88 00:02:10,949 --> 00:02:10,959 focused. It's decisive. To the patriotic 89 00:02:10,959 --> 00:02:13,990 focused. It's decisive. To the patriotic members of the press, nobody can deliver 90 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:14,000 members of the press, nobody can deliver 91 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,110 members of the press, nobody can deliver perfection in wartime. This building 92 00:02:17,110 --> 00:02:17,120 perfection in wartime. This building 93 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,910 perfection in wartime. This building knows that more than anyone. But report 94 00:02:19,910 --> 00:02:19,920 knows that more than anyone. But report 95 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:22,229 knows that more than anyone. But report the reality. 96 00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:22,239 the reality. 97 00:02:22,239 --> 00:02:26,229 the reality. We're winning decisively and on our 98 00:02:26,229 --> 00:02:26,239 We're winning decisively and on our 99 00:02:26,239 --> 00:02:30,150 We're winning decisively and on our terms. Epic Fury is different. Maybe. 100 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:30,160 terms. Epic Fury is different. Maybe. 101 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,150 terms. Epic Fury is different. Maybe. It's definitely the stupidest name I've 102 00:02:32,150 --> 00:02:32,160 It's definitely the stupidest name I've 103 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,550 It's definitely the stupidest name I've ever heard. It sounds like a VHS tape 104 00:02:34,550 --> 00:02:34,560 ever heard. It sounds like a VHS tape 105 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,470 ever heard. It sounds like a VHS tape Hexf put out of himself doing karate in 106 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:36,480 Hexf put out of himself doing karate in 107 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,229 Hexf put out of himself doing karate in a garage. It sounds like the name of an 108 00:02:38,229 --> 00:02:38,239 a garage. It sounds like the name of an 109 00:02:38,239 --> 00:02:40,150 a garage. It sounds like the name of an energy drink marketed to divorced 110 00:02:40,150 --> 00:02:40,160 energy drink marketed to divorced 111 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,309 energy drink marketed to divorced monster truck fans containing so much 112 00:02:42,309 --> 00:02:42,319 monster truck fans containing so much 113 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:43,750 monster truck fans containing so much caffeine it makes you your pants 114 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:43,760 caffeine it makes you your pants 115 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,750 caffeine it makes you your pants while having a heart attack. It doesn't 116 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:45,760 while having a heart attack. It doesn't 117 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,390 while having a heart attack. It doesn't exactly convey care and precision, but 118 00:02:48,390 --> 00:02:48,400 exactly convey care and precision, but 119 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,470 exactly convey care and precision, but at the risk of not being a patriotic 120 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:50,480 at the risk of not being a patriotic 121 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,550 at the risk of not being a patriotic member of the press, a lot of things do 122 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:52,560 member of the press, a lot of things do 123 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,070 member of the press, a lot of things do seem to be going pretty poorly. From 124 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:54,080 seem to be going pretty poorly. From 125 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,990 seem to be going pretty poorly. From strikes on Iran's oil facilities causing 126 00:02:55,990 --> 00:02:56,000 strikes on Iran's oil facilities causing 127 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,910 strikes on Iran's oil facilities causing toxic black rain endangering the public 128 00:02:57,910 --> 00:02:57,920 toxic black rain endangering the public 129 00:02:57,920 --> 00:02:59,670 toxic black rain endangering the public there to the continued blockage of the 130 00:02:59,670 --> 00:02:59,680 there to the continued blockage of the 131 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,589 there to the continued blockage of the straight of Hormuz, which is causing 132 00:03:01,589 --> 00:03:01,599 straight of Hormuz, which is causing 133 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:04,149 straight of Hormuz, which is causing skyrocketing gas prices. And while polls 134 00:03:04,149 --> 00:03:04,159 skyrocketing gas prices. And while polls 135 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:06,149 skyrocketing gas prices. And while polls suggest that Trump's base is sticking 136 00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:06,159 suggest that Trump's base is sticking 137 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:07,830 suggest that Trump's base is sticking with him so far, there are already signs 138 00:03:07,830 --> 00:03:07,840 with him so far, there are already signs 139 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,830 with him so far, there are already signs of some cracks there given the response 140 00:03:09,830 --> 00:03:09,840 of some cracks there given the response 141 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,470 of some cracks there given the response of this woman interviewed at a gas pump. 142 00:03:12,470 --> 00:03:12,480 of this woman interviewed at a gas pump. 143 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,830 of this woman interviewed at a gas pump. If you could say something to President 144 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:13,840 If you could say something to President 145 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,350 If you could say something to President Trump and he was going to hear you right 146 00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:15,360 Trump and he was going to hear you right 147 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,509 Trump and he was going to hear you right now, what would it be? 148 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:17,519 now, what would it be? 149 00:03:17,519 --> 00:03:21,830 now, what would it be? >> You are a worthless pile of 150 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:21,840 >> You are a worthless pile of 151 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,750 >> You are a worthless pile of >> and you voted for him how many times? 152 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:23,760 >> and you voted for him how many times? 153 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,550 >> and you voted for him how many times? >> Three times. That was my bad. 154 00:03:26,550 --> 00:03:26,560 >> Three times. That was my bad. 155 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,869 >> Three times. That was my bad. Apparently, I'm an idiot. 156 00:03:28,869 --> 00:03:28,879 Apparently, I'm an idiot. 157 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:33,030 Apparently, I'm an idiot. >> I mean, not No, but you know what they 158 00:03:33,030 --> 00:03:33,040 >> I mean, not No, but you know what they 159 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,270 >> I mean, not No, but you know what they say. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 160 00:03:35,270 --> 00:03:35,280 say. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 161 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,350 say. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times. 162 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:37,360 twice, shame on me. Fool me three times. 163 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,470 twice, shame on me. Fool me three times. There's going to be a blockade in the 164 00:03:38,470 --> 00:03:38,480 There's going to be a blockade in the 165 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,789 There's going to be a blockade in the straight of Hormuz. And my road trip to 166 00:03:40,789 --> 00:03:40,799 straight of Hormuz. And my road trip to 167 00:03:40,799 --> 00:03:42,309 straight of Hormuz. And my road trip to St. Louis is about to cost more than my 168 00:03:42,309 --> 00:03:42,319 St. Louis is about to cost more than my 169 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:44,630 St. Louis is about to cost more than my car payment. Now, as for where things go 170 00:03:44,630 --> 00:03:44,640 car payment. Now, as for where things go 171 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,550 car payment. Now, as for where things go from here, who knows? Thousands of 172 00:03:46,550 --> 00:03:46,560 from here, who knows? Thousands of 173 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,990 from here, who knows? Thousands of Marines have been sent to the region, 174 00:03:47,990 --> 00:03:48,000 Marines have been sent to the region, 175 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,990 Marines have been sent to the region, possibly to secure Iran's KG Island, 176 00:03:49,990 --> 00:03:50,000 possibly to secure Iran's KG Island, 177 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,229 possibly to secure Iran's KG Island, which most people would consider putting 178 00:03:52,229 --> 00:03:52,239 which most people would consider putting 179 00:03:52,239 --> 00:03:54,390 which most people would consider putting boots on the ground. However, Republican 180 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:54,400 boots on the ground. However, Republican 181 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,190 boots on the ground. However, Republican Pete Sessions is not most people. 182 00:03:57,190 --> 00:03:57,200 Pete Sessions is not most people. 183 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,630 Pete Sessions is not most people. >> The island is not, in my opinion, boots 184 00:04:00,630 --> 00:04:00,640 >> The island is not, in my opinion, boots 185 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:09,589 >> The island is not, in my opinion, boots on the ground in combat circumst. 186 00:04:09,589 --> 00:04:09,599 187 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:11,429 Well, I'm not going to argue that point. 188 00:04:11,429 --> 00:04:11,439 Well, I'm not going to argue that point. 189 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:13,589 Well, I'm not going to argue that point. As a matter of fact, you're right. But 190 00:04:13,589 --> 00:04:13,599 As a matter of fact, you're right. But 191 00:04:13,599 --> 00:04:15,670 As a matter of fact, you're right. But what I would say is the president has 192 00:04:15,670 --> 00:04:15,680 what I would say is the president has 193 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,909 what I would say is the president has chosen not to obliterate the the ability 194 00:04:19,909 --> 00:04:19,919 chosen not to obliterate the the ability 195 00:04:19,919 --> 00:04:22,710 chosen not to obliterate the the ability that to get oil and I think he wants to 196 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:22,720 that to get oil and I think he wants to 197 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,909 that to get oil and I think he wants to go secure that to make sure the Iranians 198 00:04:25,909 --> 00:04:25,919 go secure that to make sure the Iranians 199 00:04:25,919 --> 00:04:28,710 go secure that to make sure the Iranians don't do themsel in. So I think it's 200 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:28,720 don't do themsel in. So I think it's 201 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,350 don't do themsel in. So I think it's probably wisdom. Is that boots on the 202 00:04:31,350 --> 00:04:31,360 probably wisdom. Is that boots on the 203 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,550 probably wisdom. Is that boots on the ground? No, not not like inside Iran 204 00:04:34,550 --> 00:04:34,560 ground? No, not not like inside Iran 205 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,469 ground? No, not not like inside Iran where they're in the cities. 206 00:04:36,469 --> 00:04:36,479 where they're in the cities. 207 00:04:36,479 --> 00:04:39,270 where they're in the cities. >> Wait, wait. So, it's not boots on the 208 00:04:39,270 --> 00:04:39,280 >> Wait, wait. So, it's not boots on the 209 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:41,030 >> Wait, wait. So, it's not boots on the ground because they're not in a city. 210 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:41,040 ground because they're not in a city. 211 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,350 ground because they're not in a city. What the are you talking about? 212 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:43,360 What the are you talking about? 213 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,350 What the are you talking about? That clearly counts. The phrase isn't 214 00:04:45,350 --> 00:04:45,360 That clearly counts. The phrase isn't 215 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,749 That clearly counts. The phrase isn't boots in the city. 216 00:04:47,749 --> 00:04:47,759 boots in the city. 217 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:48,790 boots in the city. Mainly because I'm guessing that's 218 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:48,800 Mainly because I'm guessing that's 219 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,469 Mainly because I'm guessing that's already the title of an allcap reboot of 220 00:04:50,469 --> 00:04:50,479 already the title of an allcap reboot of 221 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:52,710 already the title of an allcap reboot of Sex in the City starring Puss and Boots. 222 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:52,720 Sex in the City starring Puss and Boots. 223 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,830 Sex in the City starring Puss and Boots. The point is, Trump seems desperate to 224 00:04:55,830 --> 00:04:55,840 The point is, Trump seems desperate to 225 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:57,590 The point is, Trump seems desperate to paint this situation as much more stable 226 00:04:57,590 --> 00:04:57,600 paint this situation as much more stable 227 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,350 paint this situation as much more stable than it actually is. And on Friday, he 228 00:04:59,350 --> 00:04:59,360 than it actually is. And on Friday, he 229 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,670 than it actually is. And on Friday, he essentially just declared victory. 230 00:05:01,670 --> 00:05:01,680 essentially just declared victory. 231 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,430 essentially just declared victory. >> Oh, I think we've won. We've knocked out 232 00:05:03,430 --> 00:05:03,440 >> Oh, I think we've won. We've knocked out 233 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,189 >> Oh, I think we've won. We've knocked out their navy, their air force. We've 234 00:05:05,189 --> 00:05:05,199 their navy, their air force. We've 235 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:07,749 their navy, their air force. We've knocked out their anti-aircraft. We've 236 00:05:07,749 --> 00:05:07,759 knocked out their anti-aircraft. We've 237 00:05:07,759 --> 00:05:09,270 knocked out their anti-aircraft. We've knocked out everything. We're roaming 238 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:09,280 knocked out everything. We're roaming 239 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:11,749 knocked out everything. We're roaming free. From a military standpoint, all 240 00:05:11,749 --> 00:05:11,759 free. From a military standpoint, all 241 00:05:11,759 --> 00:05:13,990 free. From a military standpoint, all they're doing is clogging up the strait. 242 00:05:13,990 --> 00:05:14,000 they're doing is clogging up the strait. 243 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,469 they're doing is clogging up the strait. But from a milit military standpoint, 244 00:05:16,469 --> 00:05:16,479 But from a milit military standpoint, 245 00:05:16,479 --> 00:05:17,510 But from a milit military standpoint, they're finished. 246 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:17,520 they're finished. 247 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,350 they're finished. >> Oh, well, that's great news. But here is 248 00:05:19,350 --> 00:05:19,360 >> Oh, well, that's great news. But here is 249 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,950 >> Oh, well, that's great news. But here is the problem with that. He already 250 00:05:20,950 --> 00:05:20,960 the problem with that. He already 251 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,029 the problem with that. He already declared that we'd won the war 11 days 252 00:05:23,029 --> 00:05:23,039 declared that we'd won the war 11 days 253 00:05:23,039 --> 00:05:24,629 declared that we'd won the war 11 days ago. And I don't know if you've noticed, 254 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:24,639 ago. And I don't know if you've noticed, 255 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:26,550 ago. And I don't know if you've noticed, but it has seemed to continue since 256 00:05:26,550 --> 00:05:26,560 but it has seemed to continue since 257 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,150 but it has seemed to continue since then. And I've got to say, for all this 258 00:05:28,150 --> 00:05:28,160 then. And I've got to say, for all this 259 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,469 then. And I've got to say, for all this administration's disdain for cable news 260 00:05:30,469 --> 00:05:30,479 administration's disdain for cable news 261 00:05:30,479 --> 00:05:32,550 administration's disdain for cable news spin and its insistence, people report 262 00:05:32,550 --> 00:05:32,560 spin and its insistence, people report 263 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,710 spin and its insistence, people report the reality, they are stretching the 264 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:34,720 the reality, they are stretching the 265 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,950 the reality, they are stretching the truth to breaking point here. Because 266 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:36,960 truth to breaking point here. Because 267 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,790 truth to breaking point here. Because even as Trump's claiming that we've won, 268 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:38,800 even as Trump's claiming that we've won, 269 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,870 even as Trump's claiming that we've won, the Pentagon's requesting $200 billion 270 00:05:40,870 --> 00:05:40,880 the Pentagon's requesting $200 billion 271 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,710 the Pentagon's requesting $200 billion in extra funding for this operation, 272 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:42,720 in extra funding for this operation, 273 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,469 in extra funding for this operation, sure suggesting it's going to be going 274 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:44,479 sure suggesting it's going to be going 275 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:46,310 sure suggesting it's going to be going on for a while. He's also claimed we've 276 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:46,320 on for a while. He's also claimed we've 277 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,390 on for a while. He's also claimed we've destroyed 100% of Iran's military 278 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:48,400 destroyed 100% of Iran's military 279 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,150 destroyed 100% of Iran's military capability, which is a little hard to 280 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:50,160 capability, which is a little hard to 281 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,670 capability, which is a little hard to believe given they're still somehow 282 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:51,680 believe given they're still somehow 283 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,430 believe given they're still somehow managing to strike multiple other 284 00:05:53,430 --> 00:05:53,440 managing to strike multiple other 285 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,430 managing to strike multiple other countries in the region. and he claimed 286 00:05:55,430 --> 00:05:55,440 countries in the region. and he claimed 287 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,350 countries in the region. and he claimed twice this week that a former president 288 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:57,360 twice this week that a former president 289 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,110 twice this week that a former president endorsed his decision to go to war, 290 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:59,120 endorsed his decision to go to war, 291 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,070 endorsed his decision to go to war, something they've all since denied. The 292 00:06:02,070 --> 00:06:02,080 something they've all since denied. The 293 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,309 something they've all since denied. The lies are getting pretty flagrant here, 294 00:06:04,309 --> 00:06:04,319 lies are getting pretty flagrant here, 295 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:06,309 lies are getting pretty flagrant here, even by this president's standards. And 296 00:06:06,309 --> 00:06:06,319 even by this president's standards. And 297 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:08,309 even by this president's standards. And inevitably, people are noticing. In 298 00:06:08,309 --> 00:06:08,319 inevitably, people are noticing. In 299 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:09,830 inevitably, people are noticing. In fact, you could argue that the only 300 00:06:09,830 --> 00:06:09,840 fact, you could argue that the only 301 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:12,790 fact, you could argue that the only irrefutably laser focused, decisive, 302 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:12,800 irrefutably laser focused, decisive, 303 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,790 irrefutably laser focused, decisive, epic fury that has been on display this 304 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:14,800 epic fury that has been on display this 305 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,430 epic fury that has been on display this week has been this outburst targeted at 306 00:06:17,430 --> 00:06:17,440 week has been this outburst targeted at 307 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,390 week has been this outburst targeted at him. 308 00:06:18,390 --> 00:06:18,400 him. 309 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,909 him. >> You're a worthless pile of 310 00:06:21,909 --> 00:06:21,919 >> You're a worthless pile of 311 00:06:21,919 --> 00:06:26,550 >> You're a worthless pile of >> again, not know. And now this. And now, 312 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:26,560 >> again, not know. And now this. And now, 313 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,150 >> again, not know. And now this. And now, as always, people on local TV cannot be 314 00:06:30,150 --> 00:06:30,160 as always, people on local TV cannot be 315 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,309 as always, people on local TV cannot be trusted with St. Patrick's Day. 316 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:32,319 trusted with St. Patrick's Day. 317 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:33,749 trusted with St. Patrick's Day. >> It is so great to have you, Risha. 318 00:06:33,749 --> 00:06:33,759 >> It is so great to have you, Risha. 319 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:35,029 >> It is so great to have you, Risha. >> Thank you for having me. How are y'all 320 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:35,039 >> Thank you for having me. How are y'all 321 00:06:35,039 --> 00:06:35,510 >> Thank you for having me. How are y'all today? 322 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:35,520 today? 323 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,710 today? >> Great. Thank you. And happy St. 324 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:36,720 >> Great. Thank you. And happy St. 325 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,270 >> Great. Thank you. And happy St. Patrick's Day. 326 00:06:37,270 --> 00:06:37,280 Patrick's Day. 327 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:38,629 Patrick's Day. >> Thank you. Happy St. Patrick's Day to 328 00:06:38,629 --> 00:06:38,639 >> Thank you. Happy St. Patrick's Day to 329 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:38,870 >> Thank you. Happy St. Patrick's Day to you all. 330 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:38,880 you all. 331 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,909 you all. >> Top of the morning. 332 00:06:39,909 --> 00:06:39,919 >> Top of the morning. 333 00:06:39,919 --> 00:06:41,670 >> Top of the morning. >> Well, may the luck of the Irish be with 334 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:41,680 >> Well, may the luck of the Irish be with 335 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,070 >> Well, may the luck of the Irish be with you. 6:53. Good morning. Top of the 336 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:44,080 you. 6:53. Good morning. Top of the 337 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:44,870 you. 6:53. Good morning. Top of the morning to you all. 338 00:06:44,870 --> 00:06:44,880 morning to you all. 339 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,550 morning to you all. >> Top of the morning to all of you. 340 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:46,560 >> Top of the morning to all of you. 341 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,309 >> Top of the morning to all of you. >> Top of the morning to you. 342 00:06:48,309 --> 00:06:48,319 >> Top of the morning to you. 343 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:49,670 >> Top of the morning to you. >> Top of the morning to I don't know if 344 00:06:49,670 --> 00:06:49,680 >> Top of the morning to I don't know if 345 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,029 >> Top of the morning to I don't know if that came out Irish enough, but hey, 346 00:06:51,029 --> 00:06:51,039 that came out Irish enough, but hey, 347 00:06:51,039 --> 00:06:53,749 that came out Irish enough, but hey, whatever, Jane. Top of the morning to 348 00:06:53,749 --> 00:06:53,759 whatever, Jane. Top of the morning to 349 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:54,230 whatever, Jane. Top of the morning to you. 350 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:54,240 you. 351 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,029 you. >> Top of the morning, right? 352 00:06:57,029 --> 00:06:57,039 >> Top of the morning, right? 353 00:06:57,039 --> 00:06:59,110 >> Top of the morning, right? >> Top of the morning to you. Happy St. 354 00:06:59,110 --> 00:06:59,120 >> Top of the morning to you. Happy St. 355 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,070 >> Top of the morning to you. Happy St. Patrick's Day. 356 00:07:00,070 --> 00:07:00,080 Patrick's Day. 357 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,710 Patrick's Day. >> I like that. I like that. That was good. 358 00:07:02,710 --> 00:07:02,720 >> I like that. I like that. That was good. 359 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,870 >> I like that. I like that. That was good. Top of the morning to you. I can't do 360 00:07:04,870 --> 00:07:04,880 Top of the morning to you. I can't do 361 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:05,350 Top of the morning to you. I can't do Irish. 362 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:05,360 Irish. 363 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,790 Irish. >> Top of the morning to you, Christina. 364 00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:06,800 >> Top of the morning to you, Christina. 365 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,469 >> Top of the morning to you, Christina. It's a beautiful morning out there. And 366 00:07:08,469 --> 00:07:08,479 It's a beautiful morning out there. And 367 00:07:08,479 --> 00:07:10,230 It's a beautiful morning out there. And we're definitely feeling uh like I 368 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:10,240 we're definitely feeling uh like I 369 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,510 we're definitely feeling uh like I should stop doing that accent. 370 00:07:11,510 --> 00:07:11,520 should stop doing that accent. 371 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,589 should stop doing that accent. >> Top of the morning to you. Top of the 372 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:13,599 >> Top of the morning to you. Top of the 373 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:15,430 >> Top of the morning to you. Top of the morning. You got to give it more oomph, 374 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:15,440 morning. You got to give it more oomph, 375 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:15,909 morning. You got to give it more oomph, Jacqueline. 376 00:07:15,909 --> 00:07:15,919 Jacqueline. 377 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:16,550 Jacqueline. >> I'm not Irish. 378 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:16,560 >> I'm not Irish. 379 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,550 >> I'm not Irish. >> Come on. Maybe Chip has some Irish in 380 00:07:18,550 --> 00:07:18,560 >> Come on. Maybe Chip has some Irish in 381 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,390 >> Come on. Maybe Chip has some Irish in him. Let's send it over to Chip. Maybe 382 00:07:20,390 --> 00:07:20,400 him. Let's send it over to Chip. Maybe 383 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,749 him. Let's send it over to Chip. Maybe he can do the opposite. 384 00:07:21,749 --> 00:07:21,759 he can do the opposite. 385 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:24,150 he can do the opposite. >> I I have an Ironish jig. I can do an 386 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:24,160 >> I I have an Ironish jig. I can do an 387 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,029 >> I I have an Ironish jig. I can do an Iris jig. But no, actually my uh my 388 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:27,039 Iris jig. But no, actually my uh my 389 00:07:27,039 --> 00:07:29,830 Iris jig. But no, actually my uh my lineage comes from England, so we'd be 390 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:29,840 lineage comes from England, so we'd be 391 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,350 lineage comes from England, so we'd be the persecutors, I guess, in that 392 00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:31,360 the persecutors, I guess, in that 393 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,309 the persecutors, I guess, in that situation. 394 00:07:32,309 --> 00:07:32,319 situation. 395 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:34,550 situation. >> Who's your favorite Irish person? 396 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:34,560 >> Who's your favorite Irish person? 397 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,950 >> Who's your favorite Irish person? >> I don't know what off the top of your 398 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:36,960 >> I don't know what off the top of your 399 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,790 >> I don't know what off the top of your head. You got You don't like any Irish 400 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:38,800 head. You got You don't like any Irish 401 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:39,270 head. You got You don't like any Irish people? 402 00:07:39,270 --> 00:07:39,280 people? 403 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,150 people? >> That's not what I said. 404 00:07:40,150 --> 00:07:40,160 >> That's not what I said. 405 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,670 >> That's not what I said. >> I mean, if you can't think of anybody 406 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:41,680 >> I mean, if you can't think of anybody 407 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,390 >> I mean, if you can't think of anybody you like, I'm uh No. 408 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:46,400 you like, I'm uh No. 409 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,070 you like, I'm uh No. >> Moving on. Our main story tonight 410 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:48,080 >> Moving on. Our main story tonight 411 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,990 >> Moving on. Our main story tonight concerns undercover policing. It's not 412 00:07:49,990 --> 00:07:50,000 concerns undercover policing. It's not 413 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,830 concerns undercover policing. It's not just a staple of movies and TV shows. 414 00:07:51,830 --> 00:07:51,840 just a staple of movies and TV shows. 415 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,270 just a staple of movies and TV shows. It's something cops do in real life, 416 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:53,280 It's something cops do in real life, 417 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,790 It's something cops do in real life, too, to catch people suspected of 418 00:07:54,790 --> 00:07:54,800 too, to catch people suspected of 419 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,110 too, to catch people suspected of breaking laws both big and small. As 420 00:07:57,110 --> 00:07:57,120 breaking laws both big and small. As 421 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,550 breaking laws both big and small. As this woman discovered, 422 00:07:58,550 --> 00:07:58,560 this woman discovered, 423 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,189 this woman discovered, >> Karen Heg plans to fight the $230 ticket 424 00:08:01,189 --> 00:08:01,199 >> Karen Heg plans to fight the $230 ticket 425 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:03,430 >> Karen Heg plans to fight the $230 ticket she got on Halloween Day. Accused with 426 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:03,440 she got on Halloween Day. Accused with 427 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,909 she got on Halloween Day. Accused with dozens of other drivers of not stopping 428 00:08:05,909 --> 00:08:05,919 dozens of other drivers of not stopping 429 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:09,270 dozens of other drivers of not stopping to let a 6'4 Donald Duck cross the 430 00:08:09,270 --> 00:08:09,280 to let a 6'4 Donald Duck cross the 431 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,189 to let a 6'4 Donald Duck cross the street. Then they just told me that I 432 00:08:11,189 --> 00:08:11,199 street. Then they just told me that I 433 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:12,950 street. Then they just told me that I was I was getting a ticket because I 434 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:12,960 was I was getting a ticket because I 435 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,189 was I was getting a ticket because I didn't stop for pedestrian and it was a 436 00:08:15,189 --> 00:08:15,199 didn't stop for pedestrian and it was a 437 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:17,430 didn't stop for pedestrian and it was a crazy it was a duck. It was a huge duck. 438 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:17,440 crazy it was a duck. It was a huge duck. 439 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,469 crazy it was a duck. It was a huge duck. It was scary. I'm a woman. It scared me. 440 00:08:20,469 --> 00:08:20,479 It was scary. I'm a woman. It scared me. 441 00:08:20,479 --> 00:08:23,589 It was scary. I'm a woman. It scared me. >> It's true. A cop dressed up as Donald 442 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:23,599 >> It's true. A cop dressed up as Donald 443 00:08:23,599 --> 00:08:25,830 >> It's true. A cop dressed up as Donald Duck. And then ticketed people who 444 00:08:25,830 --> 00:08:25,840 Duck. And then ticketed people who 445 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,230 Duck. And then ticketed people who didn't stop to let HIM CROSS. I GET why 446 00:08:28,230 --> 00:08:28,240 didn't stop to let HIM CROSS. I GET why 447 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,830 didn't stop to let HIM CROSS. I GET why she kept driving there. Ducks are 448 00:08:29,830 --> 00:08:29,840 she kept driving there. Ducks are 449 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,230 she kept driving there. Ducks are terrifying. As we've covered before, all 450 00:08:32,230 --> 00:08:32,240 terrifying. As we've covered before, all 451 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,630 terrifying. As we've covered before, all ducks, Donald included, have a corkcrew 452 00:08:34,630 --> 00:08:34,640 ducks, Donald included, have a corkcrew 453 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,709 ducks, Donald included, have a corkcrew penis. This isn't the first time that 454 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:36,719 penis. This isn't the first time that 455 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:38,310 penis. This isn't the first time that we've used this graphic, and it will not 456 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:38,320 we've used this graphic, and it will not 457 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,870 we've used this graphic, and it will not be the last. And incidentally, Disney, 458 00:08:40,870 --> 00:08:40,880 be the last. And incidentally, Disney, 459 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,750 be the last. And incidentally, Disney, this guy hits public domain in 2030, and 460 00:08:43,750 --> 00:08:43,760 this guy hits public domain in 2030, and 461 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,350 this guy hits public domain in 2030, and things are going to get interesting 462 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:45,360 things are going to get interesting 463 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,870 things are going to get interesting then. 464 00:08:46,870 --> 00:08:46,880 then. 465 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,710 then. That is just one of many instances where 466 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:48,720 That is just one of many instances where 467 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,190 That is just one of many instances where cops have set up so-called stings. In in 468 00:08:51,190 --> 00:08:51,200 cops have set up so-called stings. In in 469 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,949 cops have set up so-called stings. In in the past four decades, sting operations 470 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:52,959 the past four decades, sting operations 471 00:08:52,959 --> 00:08:55,030 the past four decades, sting operations of all types have become a major part of 472 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:55,040 of all types have become a major part of 473 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,389 of all types have become a major part of law enforcement in the US. There are 474 00:08:56,389 --> 00:08:56,399 law enforcement in the US. There are 475 00:08:56,399 --> 00:08:58,310 law enforcement in the US. There are stings targeting drug dealing, sex work, 476 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:58,320 stings targeting drug dealing, sex work, 477 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,389 stings targeting drug dealing, sex work, terrorism, tax fraud, drunk driving, 478 00:09:00,389 --> 00:09:00,399 terrorism, tax fraud, drunk driving, 479 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:02,790 terrorism, tax fraud, drunk driving, poaching, and a host of other crimes, 480 00:09:02,790 --> 00:09:02,800 poaching, and a host of other crimes, 481 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,389 poaching, and a host of other crimes, including, as you've just seen, failure 482 00:09:04,389 --> 00:09:04,399 including, as you've just seen, failure 483 00:09:04,399 --> 00:09:07,110 including, as you've just seen, failure to yield to a gigantic duck. And on some 484 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:07,120 to yield to a gigantic duck. And on some 485 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,030 to yield to a gigantic duck. And on some level, you probably know that cops like 486 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:09,040 level, you probably know that cops like 487 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,790 level, you probably know that cops like running sting operations given just how 488 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:10,800 running sting operations given just how 489 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,949 running sting operations given just how often they appear on local news. 490 00:09:12,949 --> 00:09:12,959 often they appear on local news. 491 00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:15,509 often they appear on local news. >> Drivers for the online ride service Uber 492 00:09:15,509 --> 00:09:15,519 >> Drivers for the online ride service Uber 493 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:17,990 >> Drivers for the online ride service Uber targeted in an LA sting operation. 494 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:18,000 targeted in an LA sting operation. 495 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,910 targeted in an LA sting operation. Dozens of people have been indicted in a 496 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:19,920 Dozens of people have been indicted in a 497 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,910 Dozens of people have been indicted in a criminal sting operation called 498 00:09:21,910 --> 00:09:21,920 criminal sting operation called 499 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:22,949 criminal sting operation called Operation Hush. 500 00:09:22,949 --> 00:09:22,959 Operation Hush. 501 00:09:22,959 --> 00:09:25,190 Operation Hush. >> A 4-month major sting operation ends 502 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:25,200 >> A 4-month major sting operation ends 503 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,190 >> A 4-month major sting operation ends with a Butler County man facing felony 504 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:27,200 with a Butler County man facing felony 505 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:27,910 with a Butler County man facing felony drug charges. 506 00:09:27,910 --> 00:09:27,920 drug charges. 507 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,670 drug charges. >> Investigators set up a sting operation 508 00:09:29,670 --> 00:09:29,680 >> Investigators set up a sting operation 509 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:31,110 >> Investigators set up a sting operation orchestrating a purchase with the 510 00:09:31,110 --> 00:09:31,120 orchestrating a purchase with the 511 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,350 orchestrating a purchase with the suspected drug traffickers. The amount 512 00:09:33,350 --> 00:09:33,360 suspected drug traffickers. The amount 513 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,070 suspected drug traffickers. The amount of fentinel sees and hear this could 514 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:36,080 of fentinel sees and hear this could 515 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,190 of fentinel sees and hear this could kill the entire population of Louisville 516 00:09:39,190 --> 00:09:39,200 kill the entire population of Louisville 517 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,949 kill the entire population of Louisville several times over. 518 00:09:40,949 --> 00:09:40,959 several times over. 519 00:09:40,959 --> 00:09:44,550 several times over. >> Wow. Is that anchor? Okay. Cops say 520 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:44,560 >> Wow. Is that anchor? Okay. Cops say 521 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:45,990 >> Wow. Is that anchor? Okay. Cops say there was enough fentel to annihilate 522 00:09:45,990 --> 00:09:46,000 there was enough fentel to annihilate 523 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,230 there was enough fentel to annihilate this godforsaken town, leaving behind 524 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:48,240 this godforsaken town, leaving behind 525 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,150 this godforsaken town, leaving behind nothing but a desert of crop pegs bones 526 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:50,160 nothing but a desert of crop pegs bones 527 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,829 nothing but a desert of crop pegs bones future generations will only refer to as 528 00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:51,839 future generations will only refer to as 529 00:09:51,839 --> 00:09:53,990 future generations will only refer to as the shadow place. Up next, we'll take 530 00:09:53,990 --> 00:09:54,000 the shadow place. Up next, we'll take 531 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,590 the shadow place. Up next, we'll take you inside Louisville's new aquarium, 532 00:09:55,590 --> 00:09:55,600 you inside Louisville's new aquarium, 533 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,509 you inside Louisville's new aquarium, which, and hear this, contains enough 534 00:09:57,509 --> 00:09:57,519 which, and hear this, contains enough 535 00:09:57,519 --> 00:09:59,509 which, and hear this, contains enough water to drown us all several times 536 00:09:59,509 --> 00:09:59,519 water to drown us all several times 537 00:09:59,519 --> 00:10:01,910 water to drown us all several times over. But whilst things are often 538 00:10:01,910 --> 00:10:01,920 over. But whilst things are often 539 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,990 over. But whilst things are often celebrated as triumphs on the news, when 540 00:10:03,990 --> 00:10:04,000 celebrated as triumphs on the news, when 541 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,070 celebrated as triumphs on the news, when you start digging into them, the details 542 00:10:06,070 --> 00:10:06,080 you start digging into them, the details 543 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,870 you start digging into them, the details can quickly become questionable at best. 544 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:08,880 can quickly become questionable at best. 545 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,949 can quickly become questionable at best. Take that Uber sting. The way operations 546 00:10:10,949 --> 00:10:10,959 Take that Uber sting. The way operations 547 00:10:10,959 --> 00:10:12,870 Take that Uber sting. The way operations like those work is an undercover officer 548 00:10:12,870 --> 00:10:12,880 like those work is an undercover officer 549 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,630 like those work is an undercover officer flags down an Uber, maybe says they 550 00:10:14,630 --> 00:10:14,640 flags down an Uber, maybe says they 551 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:15,910 flags down an Uber, maybe says they don't have the app or that their phone 552 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:15,920 don't have the app or that their phone 553 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,829 don't have the app or that their phone is dead, and offers to pay cash for a 554 00:10:17,829 --> 00:10:17,839 is dead, and offers to pay cash for a 555 00:10:17,839 --> 00:10:19,269 is dead, and offers to pay cash for a ride to their destination. The trap 556 00:10:19,269 --> 00:10:19,279 ride to their destination. The trap 557 00:10:19,279 --> 00:10:21,350 ride to their destination. The trap being ride share drivers are subject to 558 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:21,360 being ride share drivers are subject to 559 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,829 being ride share drivers are subject to arrest if a ride isn't pre-arranged. But 560 00:10:23,829 --> 00:10:23,839 arrest if a ride isn't pre-arranged. But 561 00:10:23,839 --> 00:10:25,590 arrest if a ride isn't pre-arranged. But that seems like a pretty shitty thing to 562 00:10:25,590 --> 00:10:25,600 that seems like a pretty shitty thing to 563 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,750 that seems like a pretty shitty thing to do given drivers may have been bending 564 00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:27,760 do given drivers may have been bending 565 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:28,949 do given drivers may have been bending the rules to help someone who was 566 00:10:28,949 --> 00:10:28,959 the rules to help someone who was 567 00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:31,030 the rules to help someone who was telling them they were in need. And that 568 00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:31,040 telling them they were in need. And that 569 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,110 telling them they were in need. And that makes it kind of satisfying to watch 570 00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:33,120 makes it kind of satisfying to watch 571 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,790 makes it kind of satisfying to watch this video shot by someone caught in a 572 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:34,800 this video shot by someone caught in a 573 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,870 this video shot by someone caught in a similar sting who then went back to the 574 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:36,880 similar sting who then went back to the 575 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,670 similar sting who then went back to the same location to warn other drivers. 576 00:10:39,670 --> 00:10:39,680 same location to warn other drivers. 577 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:41,110 same location to warn other drivers. >> Hey, brother. Those people are 578 00:10:41,110 --> 00:10:41,120 >> Hey, brother. Those people are 579 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,949 >> Hey, brother. Those people are undercover cops. I just got a citation 580 00:10:42,949 --> 00:10:42,959 undercover cops. I just got a citation 581 00:10:42,959 --> 00:10:43,750 undercover cops. I just got a citation for this. 582 00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:43,760 for this. 583 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,470 for this. >> Oh, really? 584 00:10:44,470 --> 00:10:44,480 >> Oh, really? 585 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,030 >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. They trapped me. 586 00:10:47,030 --> 00:10:47,040 >> Yeah. They trapped me. 587 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,030 >> Yeah. They trapped me. >> Yep. 588 00:10:49,030 --> 00:10:49,040 >> Yep. 589 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,990 >> Yep. Good job, guys. I'll see y'all in court. 590 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:52,000 Good job, guys. I'll see y'all in court. 591 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,829 Good job, guys. I'll see y'all in court. Oh, I thought your phone was dead. Oh, 592 00:10:53,829 --> 00:10:53,839 Oh, I thought your phone was dead. Oh, 593 00:10:53,839 --> 00:10:56,150 Oh, I thought your phone was dead. Oh, your phone ain't dead no more, huh? 594 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:56,160 your phone ain't dead no more, huh? 595 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,150 your phone ain't dead no more, huh? >> Excellent. Everything about that is 596 00:10:58,150 --> 00:10:58,160 >> Excellent. Everything about that is 597 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,509 >> Excellent. Everything about that is great. From the speed at which the 598 00:10:59,509 --> 00:10:59,519 great. From the speed at which the 599 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:01,190 great. From the speed at which the driver pulls away when he hears the word 600 00:11:01,190 --> 00:11:01,200 driver pulls away when he hears the word 601 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,350 driver pulls away when he hears the word cops to the cop's clear disappointment 602 00:11:03,350 --> 00:11:03,360 cops to the cop's clear disappointment 603 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,829 cops to the cop's clear disappointment to the glee of the guy taunting them. I 604 00:11:05,829 --> 00:11:05,839 to the glee of the guy taunting them. I 605 00:11:05,839 --> 00:11:07,269 to the glee of the guy taunting them. I honestly haven't been this delighted to 606 00:11:07,269 --> 00:11:07,279 honestly haven't been this delighted to 607 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:09,350 honestly haven't been this delighted to see a cop on camera since that Boston 608 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:09,360 see a cop on camera since that Boston 609 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:16,069 see a cop on camera since that Boston big boy zooted out of the slide. 610 00:11:16,069 --> 00:11:16,079 611 00:11:16,079 --> 00:11:19,590 It's still so good. It will never not be 612 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:19,600 It's still so good. It will never not be 613 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,230 It's still so good. It will never not be good. If I die with a smile ON MY FACE, 614 00:11:22,230 --> 00:11:22,240 good. If I die with a smile ON MY FACE, 615 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,990 good. If I die with a smile ON MY FACE, YOU WILL know that that was the last 616 00:11:23,990 --> 00:11:24,000 YOU WILL know that that was the last 617 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,030 YOU WILL know that that was the last thing I saw. Call that video Paul Rudd 618 00:11:27,030 --> 00:11:27,040 thing I saw. Call that video Paul Rudd 619 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,389 thing I saw. Call that video Paul Rudd cuz it never gets old. But if it seems 620 00:11:30,389 --> 00:11:30,399 cuz it never gets old. But if it seems 621 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:32,069 cuz it never gets old. But if it seems like the cops in that sting weren't so 622 00:11:32,069 --> 00:11:32,079 like the cops in that sting weren't so 623 00:11:32,079 --> 00:11:34,550 like the cops in that sting weren't so much stopping crime as creating it, 624 00:11:34,550 --> 00:11:34,560 much stopping crime as creating it, 625 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:36,870 much stopping crime as creating it, that's sort of the point here. And it's 626 00:11:36,870 --> 00:11:36,880 that's sort of the point here. And it's 627 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,230 that's sort of the point here. And it's honestly the case with more of these 628 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:38,240 honestly the case with more of these 629 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,590 honestly the case with more of these operations than you might think. So 630 00:11:39,590 --> 00:11:39,600 operations than you might think. So 631 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,269 operations than you might think. So given all that, tonight, let's look at 632 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:41,279 given all that, tonight, let's look at 633 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:43,670 given all that, tonight, let's look at stings. Why police love them, how they 634 00:11:43,670 --> 00:11:43,680 stings. Why police love them, how they 635 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:45,750 stings. Why police love them, how they use them, and who is paying the price. 636 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:45,760 use them, and who is paying the price. 637 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,430 use them, and who is paying the price. And let's start with how they became so 638 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:47,440 And let's start with how they became so 639 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,190 And let's start with how they became so popular. Stings really took off in the 640 00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:49,200 popular. Stings really took off in the 641 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,509 popular. Stings really took off in the 1970s as police shifted from primarily 642 00:11:51,509 --> 00:11:51,519 1970s as police shifted from primarily 643 00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:53,829 1970s as police shifted from primarily reacting to crime to trying to prevent 644 00:11:53,829 --> 00:11:53,839 reacting to crime to trying to prevent 645 00:11:53,839 --> 00:11:55,829 reacting to crime to trying to prevent it. That shift coincided with a string 646 00:11:55,829 --> 00:11:55,839 it. That shift coincided with a string 647 00:11:55,839 --> 00:11:57,350 it. That shift coincided with a string of Supreme Court decisions that expanded 648 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:57,360 of Supreme Court decisions that expanded 649 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,949 of Supreme Court decisions that expanded protections for defendants against 650 00:11:58,949 --> 00:11:58,959 protections for defendants against 651 00:11:58,959 --> 00:12:00,949 protections for defendants against coercive police tactics with things like 652 00:12:00,949 --> 00:12:00,959 coercive police tactics with things like 653 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:02,790 coercive police tactics with things like the establishment of Miranda rights. As 654 00:12:02,790 --> 00:12:02,800 the establishment of Miranda rights. As 655 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,670 the establishment of Miranda rights. As one experts noted, as the police use of 656 00:12:05,670 --> 00:12:05,680 one experts noted, as the police use of 657 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:08,150 one experts noted, as the police use of coercion has been restricted, their use 658 00:12:08,150 --> 00:12:08,160 coercion has been restricted, their use 659 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,030 coercion has been restricted, their use of deception has increased. The first 660 00:12:11,030 --> 00:12:11,040 of deception has increased. The first 661 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,870 of deception has increased. The first large-scale sting operation began in 662 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:12,880 large-scale sting operation began in 663 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,030 large-scale sting operation began in 1975. And in it, DC police created a 664 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:15,040 1975. And in it, DC police created a 665 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,670 1975. And in it, DC police created a fake mafia run fencing operation to lure 666 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:17,680 fake mafia run fencing operation to lure 667 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:18,870 fake mafia run fencing operation to lure people into selling them stolen 668 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:18,880 people into selling them stolen 669 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,670 people into selling them stolen property. And officers really got into 670 00:12:21,670 --> 00:12:21,680 property. And officers really got into 671 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:23,430 property. And officers really got into their roles, giving themselves quote 672 00:12:23,430 --> 00:12:23,440 their roles, giving themselves quote 673 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,670 their roles, giving themselves quote unquote Italian names like Angelo 674 00:12:25,670 --> 00:12:25,680 unquote Italian names like Angelo 675 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:29,030 unquote Italian names like Angelo Lasagna and Rico Rigoni. Here is a photo 676 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:29,040 Lasagna and Rico Rigoni. Here is a photo 677 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,870 Lasagna and Rico Rigoni. Here is a photo of them. It is a picture that screams, 678 00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:30,880 of them. It is a picture that screams, 679 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,030 of them. It is a picture that screams, "The only Italian word I know is 680 00:12:33,030 --> 00:12:33,040 "The only Italian word I know is 681 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,590 "The only Italian word I know is lasagna." They even patted out their 682 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:35,600 lasagna." They even patted out their 683 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,269 lasagna." They even patted out their backstory with lines like, "We got a 684 00:12:37,269 --> 00:12:37,279 backstory with lines like, "We got a 685 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:39,509 backstory with lines like, "We got a stiff in the trunk. What do we do?" to 686 00:12:39,509 --> 00:12:39,519 stiff in the trunk. What do we do?" to 687 00:12:39,519 --> 00:12:41,670 stiff in the trunk. What do we do?" to which Rico Riatoni would reply, "Tosser 688 00:12:41,670 --> 00:12:41,680 which Rico Riatoni would reply, "Tosser 689 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:44,389 which Rico Riatoni would reply, "Tosser him in the freeze." They also offered 690 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:44,399 him in the freeze." They also offered 691 00:12:44,399 --> 00:12:45,990 him in the freeze." They also offered targets meatballs, telling them, and I 692 00:12:45,990 --> 00:12:46,000 targets meatballs, telling them, and I 693 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,910 targets meatballs, telling them, and I quote, "You'll hurt Pasquali's feeling 694 00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:47,920 quote, "You'll hurt Pasquali's feeling 695 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,990 quote, "You'll hurt Pasquali's feeling if you know have a meatball." 696 00:12:49,990 --> 00:12:50,000 if you know have a meatball." 697 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,509 if you know have a meatball." Ultimately, they wrapped up this thing 698 00:12:51,509 --> 00:12:51,519 Ultimately, they wrapped up this thing 699 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:53,190 Ultimately, they wrapped up this thing by inviting everyone who'd sold goods to 700 00:12:53,190 --> 00:12:53,200 by inviting everyone who'd sold goods to 701 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,030 by inviting everyone who'd sold goods to them to a giant party where a police 702 00:12:55,030 --> 00:12:55,040 them to a giant party where a police 703 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,030 them to a giant party where a police sergeant played Don Corlei and had 704 00:12:57,030 --> 00:12:57,040 sergeant played Don Corlei and had 705 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,190 sergeant played Don Corlei and had attendees kiss his ring as he told them 706 00:12:59,190 --> 00:12:59,200 attendees kiss his ring as he told them 707 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,190 attendees kiss his ring as he told them they were under arrest, all while one 708 00:13:01,190 --> 00:13:01,200 they were under arrest, all while one 709 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,949 they were under arrest, all while one agent sang When the Moon Hits Your Eye 710 00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:02,959 agent sang When the Moon Hits Your Eye 711 00:13:02,959 --> 00:13:05,110 agent sang When the Moon Hits Your Eye Like a Big Piece of Pie as he put 712 00:13:05,110 --> 00:13:05,120 Like a Big Piece of Pie as he put 713 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,670 Like a Big Piece of Pie as he put handcuffs on them. Wow, that's a lot of 714 00:13:07,670 --> 00:13:07,680 handcuffs on them. Wow, that's a lot of 715 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:10,230 handcuffs on them. Wow, that's a lot of stereotype. 716 00:13:10,230 --> 00:13:10,240 stereotype. 717 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,190 stereotype. But that sting was viewed as such a 718 00:13:13,190 --> 00:13:13,200 But that sting was viewed as such a 719 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,030 But that sting was viewed as such a success, the federal government started 720 00:13:15,030 --> 00:13:15,040 success, the federal government started 721 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,110 success, the federal government started giving local police money to emulate it, 722 00:13:17,110 --> 00:13:17,120 giving local police money to emulate it, 723 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,430 giving local police money to emulate it, and departments around the country began 724 00:13:19,430 --> 00:13:19,440 and departments around the country began 725 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,110 and departments around the country began doing their own versions, and the appeal 726 00:13:21,110 --> 00:13:21,120 doing their own versions, and the appeal 727 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,590 doing their own versions, and the appeal of stings was obvious. As this news 728 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:23,600 of stings was obvious. As this news 729 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,990 of stings was obvious. As this news report from 1979 explains, catching 730 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:26,000 report from 1979 explains, catching 731 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,389 report from 1979 explains, catching people on tape makes for very easy 732 00:13:28,389 --> 00:13:28,399 people on tape makes for very easy 733 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:29,910 people on tape makes for very easy prosecutions. 734 00:13:29,910 --> 00:13:29,920 prosecutions. 735 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,590 prosecutions. >> Around the country, officials have had 736 00:13:31,590 --> 00:13:31,600 >> Around the country, officials have had 737 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,269 >> Around the country, officials have had great success in court with Sting 738 00:13:33,269 --> 00:13:33,279 great success in court with Sting 739 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:35,430 great success in court with Sting evidence. In Memphis, all but eight of 740 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:35,440 evidence. In Memphis, all but eight of 741 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,389 evidence. In Memphis, all but eight of the500 Sting defendants pleaded guilty. 742 00:13:38,389 --> 00:13:38,399 the500 Sting defendants pleaded guilty. 743 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:40,470 the500 Sting defendants pleaded guilty. And every one of those who chose a trial 744 00:13:40,470 --> 00:13:40,480 And every one of those who chose a trial 745 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,550 And every one of those who chose a trial was convicted when the jury saw the 746 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:42,560 was convicted when the jury saw the 747 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:43,350 was convicted when the jury saw the tapes. 748 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:43,360 tapes. 749 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,190 tapes. >> Right. And that does make sense, doesn't 750 00:13:45,190 --> 00:13:45,200 >> Right. And that does make sense, doesn't 751 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,509 >> Right. And that does make sense, doesn't it? Cuz once you have someone on tape, 752 00:13:47,509 --> 00:13:47,519 it? Cuz once you have someone on tape, 753 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:49,590 it? Cuz once you have someone on tape, it is usually pretty much game over with 754 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:49,600 it is usually pretty much game over with 755 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,710 it is usually pretty much game over with one notable exception. And police have 756 00:13:52,710 --> 00:13:52,720 one notable exception. And police have 757 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,710 one notable exception. And police have sometimes gotten way too into the plain 758 00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:54,720 sometimes gotten way too into the plain 759 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,470 sometimes gotten way too into the plain dress up part of Stings. In Baton Rouge 760 00:13:56,470 --> 00:13:56,480 dress up part of Stings. In Baton Rouge 761 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,030 dress up part of Stings. In Baton Rouge in the '90s, some cops wore blackface in 762 00:13:59,030 --> 00:13:59,040 in the '90s, some cops wore blackface in 763 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,550 in the '90s, some cops wore blackface in a sting operation, bragging to local 764 00:14:00,550 --> 00:14:00,560 a sting operation, bragging to local 765 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:02,310 a sting operation, bragging to local reporters, not only did they not know 766 00:14:02,310 --> 00:14:02,320 reporters, not only did they not know 767 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,310 reporters, not only did they not know we're cops, they don't even know we're 768 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:04,320 we're cops, they don't even know we're 769 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,790 we're cops, they don't even know we're white. And first of all, oh yes, they 770 00:14:06,790 --> 00:14:06,800 white. And first of all, oh yes, they 771 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,350 white. And first of all, oh yes, they did. No one in the history of blackface 772 00:14:09,350 --> 00:14:09,360 did. No one in the history of blackface 773 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,990 did. No one in the history of blackface has ever pulled it off. But also, you 774 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:12,000 has ever pulled it off. But also, you 775 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,910 has ever pulled it off. But also, you just cannot convince me that a white cop 776 00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:13,920 just cannot convince me that a white cop 777 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,590 just cannot convince me that a white cop could speak for more than 20 seconds 778 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:15,600 could speak for more than 20 seconds 779 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,110 could speak for more than 20 seconds without identifying himself as both 780 00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:17,120 without identifying himself as both 781 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,310 without identifying himself as both white and a cop. And things as things 782 00:14:20,310 --> 00:14:20,320 white and a cop. And things as things 783 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,069 white and a cop. And things as things became more common, courts have been 784 00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:22,079 became more common, courts have been 785 00:14:22,079 --> 00:14:23,750 became more common, courts have been reluctant to set limits on what police 786 00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:23,760 reluctant to set limits on what police 787 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,670 reluctant to set limits on what police are allowed to do in them. As one 788 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:25,680 are allowed to do in them. As one 789 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,350 are allowed to do in them. As one analysis puts it, there are no clear 790 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:27,360 analysis puts it, there are no clear 791 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:28,949 analysis puts it, there are no clear legal limitations on the length of the 792 00:14:28,949 --> 00:14:28,959 legal limitations on the length of the 793 00:14:28,959 --> 00:14:30,470 legal limitations on the length of the operation, the intimacy of the 794 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:30,480 operation, the intimacy of the 795 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,910 operation, the intimacy of the relationships formed, the degree of 796 00:14:31,910 --> 00:14:31,920 relationships formed, the degree of 797 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,910 relationships formed, the degree of deception used, the degree of temptation 798 00:14:33,910 --> 00:14:33,920 deception used, the degree of temptation 799 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,750 deception used, the degree of temptation offered, and the number of times it is 800 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:35,760 offered, and the number of times it is 801 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,189 offered, and the number of times it is offered. All of which leaves the 802 00:14:37,189 --> 00:14:37,199 offered. All of which leaves the 803 00:14:37,199 --> 00:14:38,790 offered. All of which leaves the government with a nearly limitless 804 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:38,800 government with a nearly limitless 805 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,269 government with a nearly limitless ability to deceive. And some law 806 00:14:41,269 --> 00:14:41,279 ability to deceive. And some law 807 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:42,790 ability to deceive. And some law enforcement will take that as an 808 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:42,800 enforcement will take that as an 809 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,110 enforcement will take that as an opportunity to rack up easy arrests and 810 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:45,120 opportunity to rack up easy arrests and 811 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,509 opportunity to rack up easy arrests and make some headlines. Take Sheriff Grady 812 00:14:47,509 --> 00:14:47,519 make some headlines. Take Sheriff Grady 813 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:49,430 make some headlines. Take Sheriff Grady Jud in Florida. His department's 814 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:49,440 Jud in Florida. His department's 815 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,670 Jud in Florida. His department's constantly boasting about running online 816 00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:51,680 constantly boasting about running online 817 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,350 constantly boasting about running online stings, often fishing for arrests 818 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:53,360 stings, often fishing for arrests 819 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,189 stings, often fishing for arrests concerning sex offenses with flashy 820 00:14:55,189 --> 00:14:55,199 concerning sex offenses with flashy 821 00:14:55,199 --> 00:14:57,590 concerning sex offenses with flashy names like Cyber Guardian, Naughty, Not 822 00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:57,600 names like Cyber Guardian, Naughty, Not 823 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,790 names like Cyber Guardian, Naughty, Not Nice Too, and Child Protector 2, which 824 00:15:00,790 --> 00:15:00,800 Nice Too, and Child Protector 2, which 825 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,389 Nice Too, and Child Protector 2, which sound less like police operators and 826 00:15:02,389 --> 00:15:02,399 sound less like police operators and 827 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:05,189 sound less like police operators and more like Steven Cigar movies. And while 828 00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:05,199 more like Steven Cigar movies. And while 829 00:15:05,199 --> 00:15:07,110 more like Steven Cigar movies. And while you'd hope they targeted predators 830 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:07,120 you'd hope they targeted predators 831 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,350 you'd hope they targeted predators looking to engage in criminal activity, 832 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:09,360 looking to engage in criminal activity, 833 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,949 looking to engage in criminal activity, when a local station dug into the 834 00:15:10,949 --> 00:15:10,959 when a local station dug into the 835 00:15:10,959 --> 00:15:12,949 when a local station dug into the tactics Jud was using, they found that 836 00:15:12,949 --> 00:15:12,959 tactics Jud was using, they found that 837 00:15:12,959 --> 00:15:15,350 tactics Jud was using, they found that wasn't exactly the case. You think you 838 00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:15,360 wasn't exactly the case. You think you 839 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,069 wasn't exactly the case. You think you know how these things go down? Cops post 840 00:15:18,069 --> 00:15:18,079 know how these things go down? Cops post 841 00:15:18,079 --> 00:15:20,069 know how these things go down? Cops post an ad for an underage teen, wait for 842 00:15:20,069 --> 00:15:20,079 an ad for an underage teen, wait for 843 00:15:20,079 --> 00:15:22,150 an ad for an underage teen, wait for predators to respond, then arrest them 844 00:15:22,150 --> 00:15:22,160 predators to respond, then arrest them 845 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,509 predators to respond, then arrest them when they show up in person. 846 00:15:23,509 --> 00:15:23,519 when they show up in person. 847 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:25,829 when they show up in person. >> If I had Grady's World, they'd all go to 848 00:15:25,829 --> 00:15:25,839 >> If I had Grady's World, they'd all go to 849 00:15:25,839 --> 00:15:26,230 >> If I had Grady's World, they'd all go to prison. 850 00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:26,240 prison. 851 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,750 prison. >> But what so many of our local law 852 00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:27,760 >> But what so many of our local law 853 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,670 >> But what so many of our local law enforcement leaders are not telling you 854 00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:29,680 enforcement leaders are not telling you 855 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,269 enforcement leaders are not telling you is that they've had to try harder and 856 00:15:31,269 --> 00:15:31,279 is that they've had to try harder and 857 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:33,110 is that they've had to try harder and harder over the years to trick men into 858 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:33,120 harder over the years to trick men into 859 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,189 harder over the years to trick men into showing up. 10 Investigates has learned 860 00:15:35,189 --> 00:15:35,199 showing up. 10 Investigates has learned 861 00:15:35,199 --> 00:15:36,470 showing up. 10 Investigates has learned through court documents and arrest 862 00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:36,480 through court documents and arrest 863 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,389 through court documents and arrest reports that law enforcement is now 864 00:15:38,389 --> 00:15:38,399 reports that law enforcement is now 865 00:15:38,399 --> 00:15:40,710 reports that law enforcement is now reaching out themselves to young men who 866 00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:40,720 reaching out themselves to young men who 867 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,550 reaching out themselves to young men who did nothing more than post an ad on a 868 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:42,560 did nothing more than post an ad on a 869 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,790 did nothing more than post an ad on a traditional dating site. Cops form a 870 00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:44,800 traditional dating site. Cops form a 871 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,189 traditional dating site. Cops form a rapport, then switch their age and try 872 00:15:47,189 --> 00:15:47,199 rapport, then switch their age and try 873 00:15:47,199 --> 00:15:49,030 rapport, then switch their age and try to trick the sometimes hesitant men to 874 00:15:49,030 --> 00:15:49,040 to trick the sometimes hesitant men to 875 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:49,990 to trick the sometimes hesitant men to keep on talking. 876 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:50,000 keep on talking. 877 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,150 keep on talking. >> They had me call them. I sat on the 878 00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:52,160 >> They had me call them. I sat on the 879 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,829 >> They had me call them. I sat on the phone for an hour with a grown woman who 880 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:55,839 phone for an hour with a grown woman who 881 00:15:55,839 --> 00:15:58,629 phone for an hour with a grown woman who was talking to me in a very seductive 882 00:15:58,629 --> 00:15:58,639 was talking to me in a very seductive 883 00:15:58,639 --> 00:15:59,269 was talking to me in a very seductive manner. 884 00:15:59,269 --> 00:15:59,279 manner. 885 00:15:59,279 --> 00:16:01,670 manner. >> He was 22 when he had his first and only 886 00:16:01,670 --> 00:16:01,680 >> He was 22 when he had his first and only 887 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,430 >> He was 22 when he had his first and only runin with the law. He thought he was 888 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:03,440 runin with the law. He thought he was 889 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,670 runin with the law. He thought he was talking to a 26-year-old online who even 890 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:05,680 talking to a 26-year-old online who even 891 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,670 talking to a 26-year-old online who even sent this photo, wedding ring and all. 892 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:07,680 sent this photo, wedding ring and all. 893 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,590 sent this photo, wedding ring and all. But after baiting him in, she switched 894 00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:09,600 But after baiting him in, she switched 895 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,629 But after baiting him in, she switched her age from 26 to 13. Joseph thought 896 00:16:12,629 --> 00:16:12,639 her age from 26 to 13. Joseph thought 897 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:14,470 her age from 26 to 13. Joseph thought she had to have been kidding, so he took 898 00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:14,480 she had to have been kidding, so he took 899 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,829 she had to have been kidding, so he took her up on her offer to meet. 900 00:16:15,829 --> 00:16:15,839 her up on her offer to meet. 901 00:16:15,839 --> 00:16:17,590 her up on her offer to meet. >> I walked into a house and was thrown 902 00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:17,600 >> I walked into a house and was thrown 903 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:18,389 >> I walked into a house and was thrown into handcuffs. 904 00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:18,399 into handcuffs. 905 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:20,230 into handcuffs. >> He's serving two years of house arrest, 906 00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:20,240 >> He's serving two years of house arrest, 907 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,310 >> He's serving two years of house arrest, then the equivalent of a life sentence 908 00:16:22,310 --> 00:16:22,320 then the equivalent of a life sentence 909 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,829 then the equivalent of a life sentence since he's now labeled a sexual 910 00:16:23,829 --> 00:16:23,839 since he's now labeled a sexual 911 00:16:23,839 --> 00:16:26,550 since he's now labeled a sexual offender. That really doesn't feel like 912 00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:26,560 offender. That really doesn't feel like 913 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,870 offender. That really doesn't feel like a slam dunk for justice there, does it? 914 00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:28,880 a slam dunk for justice there, does it? 915 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,870 a slam dunk for justice there, does it? He posted an ad online looking for an 916 00:16:30,870 --> 00:16:30,880 He posted an ad online looking for an 917 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,550 He posted an ad online looking for an adult, then talked to an adult on an 918 00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:32,560 adult, then talked to an adult on an 919 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,629 adult, then talked to an adult on an adult site and then got understandably 920 00:16:34,629 --> 00:16:34,639 adult site and then got understandably 921 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:36,389 adult site and then got understandably confused when that adult suddenly 922 00:16:36,389 --> 00:16:36,399 confused when that adult suddenly 923 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:38,870 confused when that adult suddenly reversed bigged themselves, especially 924 00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:38,880 reversed bigged themselves, especially 925 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,310 reversed bigged themselves, especially given he'd already been sent this photo, 926 00:16:40,310 --> 00:16:40,320 given he'd already been sent this photo, 927 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,150 given he'd already been sent this photo, which is obviously of a grown woman. 928 00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:42,160 which is obviously of a grown woman. 929 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,670 which is obviously of a grown woman. Wedding ring aside, she's got the face 930 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:43,680 Wedding ring aside, she's got the face 931 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,269 Wedding ring aside, she's got the face of someone who knows what a Roth IRA is. 932 00:16:47,269 --> 00:16:47,279 of someone who knows what a Roth IRA is. 933 00:16:47,279 --> 00:16:49,269 of someone who knows what a Roth IRA is. But while the crimes in these operations 934 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:49,279 But while the crimes in these operations 935 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:51,829 But while the crimes in these operations can be made up, the punishments can be 936 00:16:51,829 --> 00:16:51,839 can be made up, the punishments can be 937 00:16:51,839 --> 00:16:53,749 can be made up, the punishments can be very real. And not just when it comes to 938 00:16:53,749 --> 00:16:53,759 very real. And not just when it comes to 939 00:16:53,759 --> 00:16:55,829 very real. And not just when it comes to sex stings. The ATF for years did 940 00:16:55,829 --> 00:16:55,839 sex stings. The ATF for years did 941 00:16:55,839 --> 00:16:58,069 sex stings. The ATF for years did so-called stash house stings where where 942 00:16:58,069 --> 00:16:58,079 so-called stash house stings where where 943 00:16:58,079 --> 00:16:59,749 so-called stash house stings where where basically undercover agents would 944 00:16:59,749 --> 00:16:59,759 basically undercover agents would 945 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:01,430 basically undercover agents would recruit a group of people to rob a 946 00:17:01,430 --> 00:17:01,440 recruit a group of people to rob a 947 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,509 recruit a group of people to rob a non-existent stash house full of drugs 948 00:17:03,509 --> 00:17:03,519 non-existent stash house full of drugs 949 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:05,270 non-existent stash house full of drugs with the promise of huge amounts of 950 00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:05,280 with the promise of huge amounts of 951 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,710 with the promise of huge amounts of money. Over the years, they arrested 952 00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:06,720 money. Over the years, they arrested 953 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,390 money. Over the years, they arrested over a thousand people in these sorts of 954 00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:08,400 over a thousand people in these sorts of 955 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,549 over a thousand people in these sorts of stings, like these men who walked right 956 00:17:10,549 --> 00:17:10,559 stings, like these men who walked right 957 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:13,270 stings, like these men who walked right into the trap. Stun grenades startled 958 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:13,280 into the trap. Stun grenades startled 959 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,350 into the trap. Stun grenades startled three young men near Chicago as police 960 00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:15,360 three young men near Chicago as police 961 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:17,029 three young men near Chicago as police move in. They thought they were going to 962 00:17:17,029 --> 00:17:17,039 move in. They thought they were going to 963 00:17:17,039 --> 00:17:19,510 move in. They thought they were going to rob a drug stash house. Instead, they 964 00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:19,520 rob a drug stash house. Instead, they 965 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,069 rob a drug stash house. Instead, they got busted. A fake scenario set up by 966 00:17:22,069 --> 00:17:22,079 got busted. A fake scenario set up by 967 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:24,470 got busted. A fake scenario set up by the ATF to get hardened criminals off 968 00:17:24,470 --> 00:17:24,480 the ATF to get hardened criminals off 969 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,429 the ATF to get hardened criminals off the street. 970 00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:25,439 the street. 971 00:17:25,439 --> 00:17:27,270 the street. >> Yeah, they lured a bunch of people into 972 00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:27,280 >> Yeah, they lured a bunch of people into 973 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,190 >> Yeah, they lured a bunch of people into a car under false pretenses and then 974 00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:29,200 a car under false pretenses and then 975 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,190 a car under false pretenses and then sprang a nasty surprise on them. It's 976 00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:31,200 sprang a nasty surprise on them. It's 977 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,789 sprang a nasty surprise on them. It's almost as bad as accidentally hailing 978 00:17:32,789 --> 00:17:32,799 almost as bad as accidentally hailing 979 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:35,750 almost as bad as accidentally hailing the cash cab under no circumstances. By 980 00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:35,760 the cash cab under no circumstances. By 981 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,430 the cash cab under no circumstances. By the way, do you hear me? The only way 982 00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:37,440 the way, do you hear me? The only way 983 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,110 the way, do you hear me? The only way I'm being transported in that thing is 984 00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:39,120 I'm being transported in that thing is 985 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:40,870 I'm being transported in that thing is if you kill me and stuff me in the 986 00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:40,880 if you kill me and stuff me in the 987 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,390 if you kill me and stuff me in the trunk. 988 00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:42,400 trunk. 989 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,310 trunk. And while police will claim things like 990 00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:44,320 And while police will claim things like 991 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,390 And while police will claim things like those catch people who'd commit violent 992 00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:46,400 those catch people who'd commit violent 993 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,789 those catch people who'd commit violent crimes anyway, I'm not so sure about 994 00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:48,799 crimes anyway, I'm not so sure about 995 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:50,870 crimes anyway, I'm not so sure about that. Reporters looked into that case 996 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:50,880 that. Reporters looked into that case 997 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,870 that. Reporters looked into that case and found that this guy not only had no 998 00:17:52,870 --> 00:17:52,880 and found that this guy not only had no 999 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,029 and found that this guy not only had no convictions for violent offenses. He 1000 00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:55,039 convictions for violent offenses. He 1001 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:57,510 convictions for violent offenses. He clearly didn't know what he was doing. 1002 00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:57,520 clearly didn't know what he was doing. 1003 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,070 clearly didn't know what he was doing. >> USA Today found this smalltime criminal 1004 00:18:00,070 --> 00:18:00,080 >> USA Today found this smalltime criminal 1005 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,390 >> USA Today found this smalltime criminal in this case showed up with a rusty gun 1006 00:18:02,390 --> 00:18:02,400 in this case showed up with a rusty gun 1007 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,230 in this case showed up with a rusty gun and bullets that didn't fit. His 1008 00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:04,240 and bullets that didn't fit. His 1009 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,510 and bullets that didn't fit. His punishment looking at 25 years in jail. 1010 00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:07,520 punishment looking at 25 years in jail. 1011 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,750 punishment looking at 25 years in jail. >> Yeah. Apparently that gun was so old it 1012 00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:09,760 >> Yeah. Apparently that gun was so old it 1013 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,830 >> Yeah. Apparently that gun was so old it had been made sometime before World War 1014 00:18:11,830 --> 00:18:11,840 had been made sometime before World War 1015 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,110 had been made sometime before World War I. and a rusty old gun with bullets that 1016 00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:15,120 I. and a rusty old gun with bullets that 1017 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:16,549 I. and a rusty old gun with bullets that don't fit clearly shouldn't justify 1018 00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:16,559 don't fit clearly shouldn't justify 1019 00:18:16,559 --> 00:18:19,590 don't fit clearly shouldn't justify sending a man to prison for 25 years. At 1020 00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:19,600 sending a man to prison for 25 years. At 1021 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,270 sending a man to prison for 25 years. At best, it's be the comic relief character 1022 00:18:21,270 --> 00:18:21,280 best, it's be the comic relief character 1023 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,789 best, it's be the comic relief character in a Pixar movie where a bunch of 1024 00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:22,799 in a Pixar movie where a bunch of 1025 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:24,789 in a Pixar movie where a bunch of talking guns learn the value of found 1026 00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:24,799 talking guns learn the value of found 1027 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:26,390 talking guns learn the value of found family. 1028 00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:26,400 family. 1029 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,390 family. And the thing is, judges may not have a 1030 00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:28,400 And the thing is, judges may not have a 1031 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,390 And the thing is, judges may not have a lot of room for leniency in cases like 1032 00:18:30,390 --> 00:18:30,400 lot of room for leniency in cases like 1033 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,230 lot of room for leniency in cases like that, thanks to mandatory minimum 1034 00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:32,240 that, thanks to mandatory minimum 1035 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,230 that, thanks to mandatory minimum sentencing laws, which trigger based on 1036 00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:34,240 sentencing laws, which trigger based on 1037 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,710 sentencing laws, which trigger based on the severity of the crime. And because 1038 00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:36,720 the severity of the crime. And because 1039 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,950 the severity of the crime. And because the ATF's making the crime up in the 1040 00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:38,960 the ATF's making the crime up in the 1041 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,110 the ATF's making the crime up in the first place, they can make sure it meets 1042 00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:41,120 first place, they can make sure it meets 1043 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,789 first place, they can make sure it meets mandatory minimums by inventing drug 1044 00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:42,799 mandatory minimums by inventing drug 1045 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:45,110 mandatory minimums by inventing drug amounts that trigger long sentences or 1046 00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:45,120 amounts that trigger long sentences or 1047 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:46,630 amounts that trigger long sentences or pressuring targets into doing things 1048 00:18:46,630 --> 00:18:46,640 pressuring targets into doing things 1049 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,950 pressuring targets into doing things that increase the penalty. In one sting 1050 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:48,960 that increase the penalty. In one sting 1051 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,789 that increase the penalty. In one sting out of Witchita, ATF agents suggested a 1052 00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:50,799 out of Witchita, ATF agents suggested a 1053 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:53,350 out of Witchita, ATF agents suggested a felon take a shotgun, saw it off, and 1054 00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:53,360 felon take a shotgun, saw it off, and 1055 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:54,789 felon take a shotgun, saw it off, and bring it back to them, even providing 1056 00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:54,799 bring it back to them, even providing 1057 00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:57,430 bring it back to them, even providing instructions on how to do it. That sort 1058 00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:57,440 instructions on how to do it. That sort 1059 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,029 instructions on how to do it. That sort of off gun then allowed them to charge 1060 00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:59,039 of off gun then allowed them to charge 1061 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:00,870 of off gun then allowed them to charge the man with a more serious crime. And 1062 00:19:00,870 --> 00:19:00,880 the man with a more serious crime. And 1063 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,630 the man with a more serious crime. And if you're thinking, well, hold on. Isn't 1064 00:19:02,630 --> 00:19:02,640 if you're thinking, well, hold on. Isn't 1065 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,190 if you're thinking, well, hold on. Isn't all this enttrapment? You would think 1066 00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:05,200 all this enttrapment? You would think 1067 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,669 all this enttrapment? You would think so, but it turns out the legal bar for 1068 00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:07,679 so, but it turns out the legal bar for 1069 00:19:07,679 --> 00:19:10,310 so, but it turns out the legal bar for proving enttrapment is incredibly high. 1070 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:10,320 proving enttrapment is incredibly high. 1071 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,590 proving enttrapment is incredibly high. One big reason is that in court, 1072 00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:11,600 One big reason is that in court, 1073 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,190 One big reason is that in court, prosecutors simply have to show that 1074 00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:13,200 prosecutors simply have to show that 1075 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,710 prosecutors simply have to show that you're doing something you'd have been 1076 00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:14,720 you're doing something you'd have been 1077 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,789 you're doing something you'd have been predisposed to do anyway. And depending 1078 00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:16,799 predisposed to do anyway. And depending 1079 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:18,390 predisposed to do anyway. And depending on your case, things like prior 1080 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:18,400 on your case, things like prior 1081 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,390 on your case, things like prior convictions and drug addiction could 1082 00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:20,400 convictions and drug addiction could 1083 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,470 convictions and drug addiction could qualify. Often, all they have to show is 1084 00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:22,480 qualify. Often, all they have to show is 1085 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,150 qualify. Often, all they have to show is that you were willing to commit the 1086 00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:24,160 that you were willing to commit the 1087 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,390 that you were willing to commit the crime. But a key reason people can be 1088 00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:26,400 crime. But a key reason people can be 1089 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,230 crime. But a key reason people can be willing to do that is because they've 1090 00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:28,240 willing to do that is because they've 1091 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,310 willing to do that is because they've just been offered a lot of money. All of 1092 00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:30,320 just been offered a lot of money. All of 1093 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,230 just been offered a lot of money. All of which makes you feel pretty predatory 1094 00:19:32,230 --> 00:19:32,240 which makes you feel pretty predatory 1095 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,990 which makes you feel pretty predatory that these things can actively target 1096 00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:34,000 that these things can actively target 1097 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,390 that these things can actively target lowincome communities. In California, 1098 00:19:36,390 --> 00:19:36,400 lowincome communities. In California, 1099 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,230 lowincome communities. In California, federal judge, a federal judge uh even 1100 00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:38,240 federal judge, a federal judge uh even 1101 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,630 federal judge, a federal judge uh even accused ATF agents of trolling poor 1102 00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:40,640 accused ATF agents of trolling poor 1103 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,710 accused ATF agents of trolling poor neighborhoods for suspects. 1104 00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:42,720 neighborhoods for suspects. 1105 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,230 neighborhoods for suspects. Investigations have also found stings 1106 00:19:44,230 --> 00:19:44,240 Investigations have also found stings 1107 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,990 Investigations have also found stings disproportionately target minorities. 1108 00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:46,000 disproportionately target minorities. 1109 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,990 disproportionately target minorities. Now, one that looked at seven years of 1110 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:48,000 Now, one that looked at seven years of 1111 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,430 Now, one that looked at seven years of stash house stings in the greater 1112 00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:49,440 stash house stings in the greater 1113 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,190 stash house stings in the greater Chicago area found that of the people 1114 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:51,200 Chicago area found that of the people 1115 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,390 Chicago area found that of the people charged in them, 92% were black or 1116 00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:54,400 charged in them, 92% were black or 1117 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,549 charged in them, 92% were black or Hispanic. And when a retired ATF agent 1118 00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:56,559 Hispanic. And when a retired ATF agent 1119 00:19:56,559 --> 00:19:58,230 Hispanic. And when a retired ATF agent was asked to explain why they chose 1120 00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:58,240 was asked to explain why they chose 1121 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,590 was asked to explain why they chose certain areas, his answer wasn't great. 1122 00:20:01,590 --> 00:20:01,600 certain areas, his answer wasn't great. 1123 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,430 certain areas, his answer wasn't great. >> Why do a stash house investigation in 1124 00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:03,440 >> Why do a stash house investigation in 1125 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,510 >> Why do a stash house investigation in Englewood as opposed to some other 1126 00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:05,520 Englewood as opposed to some other 1127 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:06,390 Englewood as opposed to some other place? 1128 00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:06,400 place? 1129 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,870 place? >> Well, we don't we do we do them anywhere 1130 00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:08,880 >> Well, we don't we do we do them anywhere 1131 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,470 >> Well, we don't we do we do them anywhere that we find that there's people that 1132 00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:10,480 that we find that there's people that 1133 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,070 that we find that there's people that are willing to participate in that level 1134 00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:12,080 are willing to participate in that level 1135 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,430 are willing to participate in that level of violence. Those are people we're 1136 00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:13,440 of violence. Those are people we're 1137 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,590 of violence. Those are people we're going to want to talk to. Uh again, it's 1138 00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:15,600 going to want to talk to. Uh again, it's 1139 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,430 going to want to talk to. Uh again, it's this is a kill or be killed proposition. 1140 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:17,440 this is a kill or be killed proposition. 1141 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,390 this is a kill or be killed proposition. It doesn't matter if you're in 1142 00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:18,400 It doesn't matter if you're in 1143 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:23,430 It doesn't matter if you're in Englewood, the West Side, um Detroit, uh 1144 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:23,440 Englewood, the West Side, um Detroit, uh 1145 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,590 Englewood, the West Side, um Detroit, uh New Orleans, anywhere, any community 1146 00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:25,600 New Orleans, anywhere, any community 1147 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,510 New Orleans, anywhere, any community where we can find those violent people 1148 00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:27,520 where we can find those violent people 1149 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,590 where we can find those violent people within that community, um then we'll 1150 00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:29,600 within that community, um then we'll 1151 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,350 within that community, um then we'll provide them with this opportunity. 1152 00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:31,360 provide them with this opportunity. 1153 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:34,230 provide them with this opportunity. >> Huh, what a fascinating off the top of 1154 00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:34,240 >> Huh, what a fascinating off the top of 1155 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,870 >> Huh, what a fascinating off the top of your head list that was Anglewood, the 1156 00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:36,880 your head list that was Anglewood, the 1157 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,870 your head list that was Anglewood, the Westside, Detroit, or New Orleans. All 1158 00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:38,880 Westside, Detroit, or New Orleans. All 1159 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,430 Westside, Detroit, or New Orleans. All fun fact, majority black areas. He's 1160 00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:41,440 fun fact, majority black areas. He's 1161 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,350 fun fact, majority black areas. He's only one step away from adding Wakanda 1162 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:43,360 only one step away from adding Wakanda 1163 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:46,230 only one step away from adding Wakanda to that list. And disproportionate 1164 00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:46,240 to that list. And disproportionate 1165 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,990 to that list. And disproportionate targeting has been baked into stings 1166 00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:48,000 targeting has been baked into stings 1167 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,350 targeting has been baked into stings from the very beginning. Remember the 1168 00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:49,360 from the very beginning. Remember the 1169 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:51,909 from the very beginning. Remember the fake mafia guys buying fenced goods. It 1170 00:20:51,909 --> 00:20:51,919 fake mafia guys buying fenced goods. It 1171 00:20:51,919 --> 00:20:53,909 fake mafia guys buying fenced goods. It rounded up about 120 people, although 1172 00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:53,919 rounded up about 120 people, although 1173 00:20:53,919 --> 00:20:56,070 rounded up about 120 people, although most were not experienced traffickers, 1174 00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:56,080 most were not experienced traffickers, 1175 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,990 most were not experienced traffickers, but unemployed black men who had heard 1176 00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:58,000 but unemployed black men who had heard 1177 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,350 but unemployed black men who had heard about the high prices being offered at 1178 00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:59,360 about the high prices being offered at 1179 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:01,430 about the high prices being offered at the warehouse and had decided to steal 1180 00:21:01,430 --> 00:21:01,440 the warehouse and had decided to steal 1181 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,669 the warehouse and had decided to steal something. Flash forward to 2018 and law 1182 00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:03,679 something. Flash forward to 2018 and law 1183 00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:05,350 something. Flash forward to 2018 and law enforcement in Chicago were using a 1184 00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:05,360 enforcement in Chicago were using a 1185 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,190 enforcement in Chicago were using a Bates truck that they filled with Nike 1186 00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:07,200 Bates truck that they filled with Nike 1187 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,190 Bates truck that they filled with Nike sneakers and parked in an impoverished 1188 00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:09,200 sneakers and parked in an impoverished 1189 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,669 sneakers and parked in an impoverished neighborhood. Something that justifiably 1190 00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:11,679 neighborhood. Something that justifiably 1191 00:21:11,679 --> 00:21:14,470 neighborhood. Something that justifiably infuriated community members. Instead of 1192 00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:14,480 infuriated community members. Instead of 1193 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,149 infuriated community members. Instead of y'all chasing crime, you trying to 1194 00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:16,159 y'all chasing crime, you trying to 1195 00:21:16,159 --> 00:21:17,029 y'all chasing crime, you trying to create crime. 1196 00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:17,039 create crime. 1197 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:18,789 create crime. >> On this YouTube video posted by 1198 00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:18,799 >> On this YouTube video posted by 1199 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:21,029 >> On this YouTube video posted by anti-rime activist Charles McKenzie, 1200 00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:21,039 anti-rime activist Charles McKenzie, 1201 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:23,430 anti-rime activist Charles McKenzie, outraged residents call that entrapment. 1202 00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:23,440 outraged residents call that entrapment. 1203 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,549 outraged residents call that entrapment. >> Y'all baiting our young kids. 1204 00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:24,559 >> Y'all baiting our young kids. 1205 00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:27,830 >> Y'all baiting our young kids. >> It's a base truck, man. 1206 00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:27,840 >> It's a base truck, man. 1207 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,270 >> It's a base truck, man. >> Park Nike truck. 1208 00:21:29,270 --> 00:21:29,280 >> Park Nike truck. 1209 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,630 >> Park Nike truck. >> I think this is bogus and y'all 1210 00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:30,640 >> I think this is bogus and y'all 1211 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,230 >> I think this is bogus and y'all shouldn't be entrapping black. I think 1212 00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:32,240 shouldn't be entrapping black. I think 1213 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,710 shouldn't be entrapping black. I think it's real crimes being committed. Why do 1214 00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:34,720 it's real crimes being committed. Why do 1215 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,230 it's real crimes being committed. Why do you got to do Why don't you go preach to 1216 00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:36,240 you got to do Why don't you go preach to 1217 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,830 you got to do Why don't you go preach to somebody else? Huh? 1218 00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:37,840 somebody else? Huh? 1219 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,510 somebody else? Huh? >> Put this in your neighborhood. 1220 00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:39,520 >> Put this in your neighborhood. 1221 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,669 >> Put this in your neighborhood. >> Yeah, fair point. And I know it's a 1222 00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:41,679 >> Yeah, fair point. And I know it's a 1223 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:43,669 >> Yeah, fair point. And I know it's a little hard to tell what the cop dropped 1224 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:43,679 little hard to tell what the cop dropped 1225 00:21:43,679 --> 00:21:45,110 little hard to tell what the cop dropped on the ground there, but from context, 1226 00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:45,120 on the ground there, but from context, 1227 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:46,310 on the ground there, but from context, I'm going to just guess it's his 1228 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:46,320 I'm going to just guess it's his 1229 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,669 I'm going to just guess it's his dignity, but it is not just racial or 1230 00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:49,679 dignity, but it is not just racial or 1231 00:21:49,679 --> 00:21:51,430 dignity, but it is not just racial or economic targeting. Stings can also 1232 00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:51,440 economic targeting. Stings can also 1233 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,950 economic targeting. Stings can also sweep up people who might be easier for 1234 00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:52,960 sweep up people who might be easier for 1235 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,870 sweep up people who might be easier for cops to manipulate due to mental illness 1236 00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:54,880 cops to manipulate due to mental illness 1237 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,950 cops to manipulate due to mental illness or disabilities. Just listen to these 1238 00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:56,960 or disabilities. Just listen to these 1239 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,390 or disabilities. Just listen to these parents of an autistic teenager in 1240 00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:58,400 parents of an autistic teenager in 1241 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,990 parents of an autistic teenager in California tell the story of how some 1242 00:21:59,990 --> 00:22:00,000 California tell the story of how some 1243 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,310 California tell the story of how some happy news from school quickly took a 1244 00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:02,320 happy news from school quickly took a 1245 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,669 happy news from school quickly took a turn for the worse. 1246 00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:03,679 turn for the worse. 1247 00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:05,669 turn for the worse. >> He told me that he met a new friend in 1248 00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:05,679 >> He told me that he met a new friend in 1249 00:22:05,679 --> 00:22:07,669 >> He told me that he met a new friend in art class, and I was completely amazed 1250 00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:07,679 art class, and I was completely amazed 1251 00:22:07,679 --> 00:22:09,750 art class, and I was completely amazed by that. It seemed like uh they were 1252 00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:09,760 by that. It seemed like uh they were 1253 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,230 by that. It seemed like uh they were having these great conversations back 1254 00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:12,240 having these great conversations back 1255 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,149 having these great conversations back and forth or what seemed typical for a 1256 00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:14,159 and forth or what seemed typical for a 1257 00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:16,549 and forth or what seemed typical for a teenager because there was such a 1258 00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:16,559 teenager because there was such a 1259 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:18,470 teenager because there was such a furious amount of texting going on. 1260 00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:18,480 furious amount of texting going on. 1261 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,230 furious amount of texting going on. >> But those texts weren't just friendly 1262 00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:20,240 >> But those texts weren't just friendly 1263 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,549 >> But those texts weren't just friendly teenage banter. Instead, their son's new 1264 00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:22,559 teenage banter. Instead, their son's new 1265 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:24,070 teenage banter. Instead, their son's new friend was pressuring him to buy 1266 00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:24,080 friend was pressuring him to buy 1267 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,669 friend was pressuring him to buy marijuana. And this new friend wasn't 1268 00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:25,679 marijuana. And this new friend wasn't 1269 00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:27,669 marijuana. And this new friend wasn't just a teenager. He was an undercover 1270 00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:27,679 just a teenager. He was an undercover 1271 00:22:27,679 --> 00:22:29,430 just a teenager. He was an undercover cop who went by the name of Daniel 1272 00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:29,440 cop who went by the name of Daniel 1273 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,590 cop who went by the name of Daniel Briggs. It took the Snodgrass's son 1274 00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:31,600 Briggs. It took the Snodgrass's son 1275 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,590 Briggs. It took the Snodgrass's son three weeks to buy half a joint of pot 1276 00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:33,600 three weeks to buy half a joint of pot 1277 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,590 three weeks to buy half a joint of pot off a homeless man. A few weeks later, 1278 00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:35,600 off a homeless man. A few weeks later, 1279 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,430 off a homeless man. A few weeks later, armed policemen walked into his 1280 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:37,440 armed policemen walked into his 1281 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,110 armed policemen walked into his classroom and arrested him in front of 1282 00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:39,120 classroom and arrested him in front of 1283 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:41,510 classroom and arrested him in front of his peers. 22 students were arrested in 1284 00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:41,520 his peers. 22 students were arrested in 1285 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,270 his peers. 22 students were arrested in the drug sting. Most of them were 1286 00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:43,280 the drug sting. Most of them were 1287 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,750 the drug sting. Most of them were special needs students. That is 1288 00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:45,760 special needs students. That is 1289 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,590 special needs students. That is appalling. And for what it's worth, 1290 00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:47,600 appalling. And for what it's worth, 1291 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,909 appalling. And for what it's worth, their son only got the joint because his 1292 00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:49,919 their son only got the joint because his 1293 00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:51,750 their son only got the joint because his cop friend told him he was always in 1294 00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:51,760 cop friend told him he was always in 1295 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,350 cop friend told him he was always in trouble with his strict mom and was 1296 00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:53,360 trouble with his strict mom and was 1297 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,270 trouble with his strict mom and was super stressed. That's why he really 1298 00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:55,280 super stressed. That's why he really 1299 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,190 super stressed. That's why he really needed it. So, it seems that cop was 1300 00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:57,200 needed it. So, it seems that cop was 1301 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,870 needed it. So, it seems that cop was truly living by Mr. Rogers's famous 1302 00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:58,880 truly living by Mr. Rogers's famous 1303 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,190 truly living by Mr. Rogers's famous advice, "Look for the helpers so you can 1304 00:23:01,190 --> 00:23:01,200 advice, "Look for the helpers so you can 1305 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,590 advice, "Look for the helpers so you can arrest them for weed possession." And in 1306 00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:03,600 arrest them for weed possession." And in 1307 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,590 arrest them for weed possession." And in a sign of just how much the media 1308 00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:05,600 a sign of just how much the media 1309 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,710 a sign of just how much the media uncritically laps these stories up, this 1310 00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:08,720 uncritically laps these stories up, this 1311 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,710 uncritically laps these stories up, this is how those arrests got covered on the 1312 00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:10,720 is how those arrests got covered on the 1313 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:11,909 is how those arrests got covered on the local news. 1314 00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:11,919 local news. 1315 00:23:11,919 --> 00:23:13,590 local news. >> Riverside County Sheriff's deputies have 1316 00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:13,600 >> Riverside County Sheriff's deputies have 1317 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,830 >> Riverside County Sheriff's deputies have smashed an illegal drug ring operating 1318 00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:15,840 smashed an illegal drug ring operating 1319 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,230 smashed an illegal drug ring operating out of three high schools in Tmacula. 1320 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:18,240 out of three high schools in Tmacula. 1321 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,549 out of three high schools in Tmacula. >> 22 students were taken into custody. 1322 00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:20,559 >> 22 students were taken into custody. 1323 00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:22,390 >> 22 students were taken into custody. >> It was like 21 Jump Street. Like 1324 00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:22,400 >> It was like 21 Jump Street. Like 1325 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,070 >> It was like 21 Jump Street. Like >> deputies say during the investigation 1326 00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:24,080 >> deputies say during the investigation 1327 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,390 >> deputies say during the investigation they seized all types of drugs, meth, 1328 00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:26,400 they seized all types of drugs, meth, 1329 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,350 they seized all types of drugs, meth, cocaine, LSD, and ecstasy. Chapperel 1330 00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:29,360 cocaine, LSD, and ecstasy. Chapperel 1331 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:31,190 cocaine, LSD, and ecstasy. Chapperel High School also had students escorted 1332 00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:31,200 High School also had students escorted 1333 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,270 High School also had students escorted by police off campus. This picture shows 1334 00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:33,280 by police off campus. This picture shows 1335 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,430 by police off campus. This picture shows one of five arrests made there. 1336 00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:35,440 one of five arrests made there. 1337 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,510 one of five arrests made there. >> That kid on the screen there was the one 1338 00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:37,520 >> That kid on the screen there was the one 1339 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,270 >> That kid on the screen there was the one who spent weeks trying to buy half a 1340 00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:39,280 who spent weeks trying to buy half a 1341 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,710 who spent weeks trying to buy half a joint for his friend because he was 1342 00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:40,720 joint for his friend because he was 1343 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,789 joint for his friend because he was worried about it. But I can see why the 1344 00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:42,799 worried about it. But I can see why the 1345 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:44,950 worried about it. But I can see why the news didn't lead with that angle. Cops 1346 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:44,960 news didn't lead with that angle. Cops 1347 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,590 news didn't lead with that angle. Cops bust massive drug ring is a much cooler 1348 00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:47,600 bust massive drug ring is a much cooler 1349 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,590 bust massive drug ring is a much cooler story than cops manipulate/arrest 1350 00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:49,600 story than cops manipulate/arrest 1351 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,630 story than cops manipulate/arrest autistic teen. And it goes way beyond 1352 00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:52,640 autistic teen. And it goes way beyond 1353 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,549 autistic teen. And it goes way beyond school drug busts. An investigation into 1354 00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:54,559 school drug busts. An investigation into 1355 00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:56,230 school drug busts. An investigation into another ATF practice of setting up fake 1356 00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:56,240 another ATF practice of setting up fake 1357 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,710 another ATF practice of setting up fake stores to buy drugs and guns found them 1358 00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:58,720 stores to buy drugs and guns found them 1359 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,149 stores to buy drugs and guns found them repeatedly manipulating people with 1360 00:24:00,149 --> 00:24:00,159 repeatedly manipulating people with 1361 00:24:00,159 --> 00:24:02,630 repeatedly manipulating people with disabilities. In one case, agents set up 1362 00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:02,640 disabilities. In one case, agents set up 1363 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,950 disabilities. In one case, agents set up a fake smoke shop in Portland and paid a 1364 00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:04,960 a fake smoke shop in Portland and paid a 1365 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,630 a fake smoke shop in Portland and paid a 19-year-old who was mentally disabled 1366 00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:06,640 19-year-old who was mentally disabled 1367 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,630 19-year-old who was mentally disabled and his friend to promote their store 1368 00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:08,640 and his friend to promote their store 1369 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,110 and his friend to promote their store by, and this is true, getting a large 1370 00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:11,120 by, and this is true, getting a large 1371 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,350 by, and this is true, getting a large tattoo on their necks of the fake shop's 1372 00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:13,360 tattoo on their necks of the fake shop's 1373 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,830 tattoo on their necks of the fake shop's emblem, which was a giant squid smoking 1374 00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:15,840 emblem, which was a giant squid smoking 1375 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,950 emblem, which was a giant squid smoking a joint, which is utterly despicable. 1376 00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:18,960 a joint, which is utterly despicable. 1377 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,029 a joint, which is utterly despicable. And when a judge later reprimanded a 1378 00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:21,039 And when a judge later reprimanded a 1379 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:23,190 And when a judge later reprimanded a government lawyer for that, I'd argue 1380 00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:23,200 government lawyer for that, I'd argue 1381 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,310 government lawyer for that, I'd argue she did it in far too casual a manner. 1382 00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:26,320 she did it in far too casual a manner. 1383 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,149 she did it in far too casual a manner. >> But the agent, it was government money 1384 00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:28,159 >> But the agent, it was government money 1385 00:24:28,159 --> 00:24:29,750 >> But the agent, it was government money that was used to pay for the tattoos, 1386 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:29,760 that was used to pay for the tattoos, 1387 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,190 that was used to pay for the tattoos, >> I believe. So, 1388 00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:31,200 >> I believe. So, 1389 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,230 >> I believe. So, >> uh could you send a message back to uh 1390 00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:34,240 >> uh could you send a message back to uh 1391 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,149 >> uh could you send a message back to uh it was a which agency was doing it? 1392 00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:36,159 it was a which agency was doing it? 1393 00:24:36,159 --> 00:24:37,029 it was a which agency was doing it? >> Uh ATF 1394 00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:37,039 >> Uh ATF 1395 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:42,149 >> Uh ATF >> that uh it's really a bad idea. Um 1396 00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:42,159 >> that uh it's really a bad idea. Um 1397 00:24:42,159 --> 00:24:44,310 >> that uh it's really a bad idea. Um nothing unlawful about it, but uh not a 1398 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:44,320 nothing unlawful about it, but uh not a 1399 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,190 nothing unlawful about it, but uh not a good idea. 1400 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:45,200 good idea. 1401 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,669 good idea. >> Not a good idea. Look, there is a time 1402 00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:47,679 >> Not a good idea. Look, there is a time 1403 00:24:47,679 --> 00:24:49,269 >> Not a good idea. Look, there is a time to be polite, but finding out agents 1404 00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:49,279 to be polite, but finding out agents 1405 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:51,750 to be polite, but finding out agents just use taxpayer money to tattoo a teen 1406 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:51,760 just use taxpayer money to tattoo a teen 1407 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,230 just use taxpayer money to tattoo a teen with mental disabilities is not it. In 1408 00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:54,240 with mental disabilities is not it. In 1409 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,750 with mental disabilities is not it. In fact, I looked up that exact situation 1410 00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:55,760 fact, I looked up that exact situation 1411 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,430 fact, I looked up that exact situation in Emily Post book of etiquette and her 1412 00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:57,440 in Emily Post book of etiquette and her 1413 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,430 in Emily Post book of etiquette and her advice just says, "Fuck those 1414 00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:59,440 advice just says, "Fuck those 1415 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,350 advice just says, "Fuck those sideways with a rusty fork." I didn't 1416 00:25:01,350 --> 00:25:01,360 sideways with a rusty fork." I didn't 1417 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:03,830 sideways with a rusty fork." I didn't say that. Emily posted, so you know it's 1418 00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:03,840 say that. Emily posted, so you know it's 1419 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,549 say that. Emily posted, so you know it's official. And if it wasn't enough for 1420 00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:06,559 official. And if it wasn't enough for 1421 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,390 official. And if it wasn't enough for cops to prey on disabled or desperate 1422 00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:08,400 cops to prey on disabled or desperate 1423 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,230 cops to prey on disabled or desperate people, there is one more way they can 1424 00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:10,240 people, there is one more way they can 1425 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,510 people, there is one more way they can make things easy on themselves with 1426 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:11,520 make things easy on themselves with 1427 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,870 make things easy on themselves with stings. And that is by using 1428 00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:12,880 stings. And that is by using 1429 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,269 stings. And that is by using confidential informants or CIS. 1430 00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:15,279 confidential informants or CIS. 1431 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:16,870 confidential informants or CIS. Basically, people they convince to go 1432 00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:16,880 Basically, people they convince to go 1433 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,190 Basically, people they convince to go undercover on their behalf. sometimes by 1434 00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:19,200 undercover on their behalf. sometimes by 1435 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,029 undercover on their behalf. sometimes by paying them, but often by taking people 1436 00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:21,039 paying them, but often by taking people 1437 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:22,870 paying them, but often by taking people they've already arrested and pressuring 1438 00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:22,880 they've already arrested and pressuring 1439 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,110 they've already arrested and pressuring them to work as CIS to obtain their 1440 00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:25,120 them to work as CIS to obtain their 1441 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:27,430 them to work as CIS to obtain their freedom. As this ex- cop readily 1442 00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:27,440 freedom. As this ex- cop readily 1443 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,390 freedom. As this ex- cop readily explains, using these sources can really 1444 00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:30,400 explains, using these sources can really 1445 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,830 explains, using these sources can really speed things up when it comes to making 1446 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:31,840 speed things up when it comes to making 1447 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,789 speed things up when it comes to making a case. 1448 00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:32,799 a case. 1449 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,190 a case. >> If you had not been able personally to 1450 00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:35,200 >> If you had not been able personally to 1451 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,830 >> If you had not been able personally to use confidential informance, would you 1452 00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:37,840 use confidential informance, would you 1453 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,510 use confidential informance, would you have been as effective? 1454 00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:39,520 have been as effective? 1455 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,950 have been as effective? >> Nowhere near as effective. 1456 00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:40,960 >> Nowhere near as effective. 1457 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,149 >> Nowhere near as effective. >> You really feel you need this? 1458 00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:42,159 >> You really feel you need this? 1459 00:25:42,159 --> 00:25:44,390 >> You really feel you need this? >> Oh, I know I would not. I may have to 1460 00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:44,400 >> Oh, I know I would not. I may have to 1461 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,110 >> Oh, I know I would not. I may have to watch a house for days or weeks to 1462 00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:47,120 watch a house for days or weeks to 1463 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,510 watch a house for days or weeks to establish probable cause. My informant 1464 00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:49,520 establish probable cause. My informant 1465 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,950 establish probable cause. My informant goes in and makes a buy out of it and I 1466 00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:50,960 goes in and makes a buy out of it and I 1467 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,950 goes in and makes a buy out of it and I have my probable cause in 5 minutes. 1468 00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:52,960 have my probable cause in 5 minutes. 1469 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,029 have my probable cause in 5 minutes. Look, I will concede that man in 1470 00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:55,039 Look, I will concede that man in 1471 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:56,870 Look, I will concede that man in particular is going to have a hard time 1472 00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:56,880 particular is going to have a hard time 1473 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,430 particular is going to have a hard time going undercover because if you showed 1474 00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:59,440 going undercover because if you showed 1475 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,110 going undercover because if you showed me that guy and gave me three guesses 1476 00:26:01,110 --> 00:26:01,120 me that guy and gave me three guesses 1477 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,870 me that guy and gave me three guesses what he does for a living, they'd be in 1478 00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:02,880 what he does for a living, they'd be in 1479 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,669 what he does for a living, they'd be in order. Cop, cop, and guy who plays cop 1480 00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:05,679 order. Cop, cop, and guy who plays cop 1481 00:26:05,679 --> 00:26:07,909 order. Cop, cop, and guy who plays cop in porn. 1482 00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:07,919 in porn. 1483 00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:10,310 in porn. And the appeal for police in CIS is 1484 00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:10,320 And the appeal for police in CIS is 1485 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,590 And the appeal for police in CIS is obvious. They're people who may already 1486 00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:11,600 obvious. They're people who may already 1487 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,110 obvious. They're people who may already be known and trusted in their community 1488 00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:13,120 be known and trusted in their community 1489 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,110 be known and trusted in their community and crucially as civilians. They're 1490 00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:15,120 and crucially as civilians. They're 1491 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:16,789 and crucially as civilians. They're subject to even fewer rules and 1492 00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:16,799 subject to even fewer rules and 1493 00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:19,430 subject to even fewer rules and restrictions than cops regarding conduct 1494 00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:19,440 restrictions than cops regarding conduct 1495 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,950 restrictions than cops regarding conduct during an investigation. But there are 1496 00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:20,960 during an investigation. But there are 1497 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,590 during an investigation. But there are some obvious issues here. First, because 1498 00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:23,600 some obvious issues here. First, because 1499 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,590 some obvious issues here. First, because CIS can be paid or working under the 1500 00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:25,600 CIS can be paid or working under the 1501 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,269 CIS can be paid or working under the threat of jail time, they can be under 1502 00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:27,279 threat of jail time, they can be under 1503 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:29,750 threat of jail time, they can be under huge pressure to produce whatever info 1504 00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:29,760 huge pressure to produce whatever info 1505 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,669 huge pressure to produce whatever info cops need, whether it is reliable or 1506 00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:31,679 cops need, whether it is reliable or 1507 00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:33,909 cops need, whether it is reliable or not. Meaning, they might well fabricate 1508 00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:33,919 not. Meaning, they might well fabricate 1509 00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:36,230 not. Meaning, they might well fabricate information. Also, cops can look the 1510 00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:36,240 information. Also, cops can look the 1511 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,070 information. Also, cops can look the other way at crimes their CIS have 1512 00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:38,080 other way at crimes their CIS have 1513 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,990 other way at crimes their CIS have committed or even continue to commit 1514 00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:40,000 committed or even continue to commit 1515 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,269 committed or even continue to commit while they are working for them. And 1516 00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:41,279 while they are working for them. And 1517 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:42,710 while they are working for them. And finally, if you're thinking pressuring 1518 00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:42,720 finally, if you're thinking pressuring 1519 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,549 finally, if you're thinking pressuring untrained civilians into doing the job 1520 00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:44,559 untrained civilians into doing the job 1521 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:46,710 untrained civilians into doing the job of undercover cops feels like it could 1522 00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:46,720 of undercover cops feels like it could 1523 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,789 of undercover cops feels like it could end badly, you're right about that. 1524 00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:48,799 end badly, you're right about that. 1525 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:50,710 end badly, you're right about that. There have been multiple stories of CIS 1526 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:50,720 There have been multiple stories of CIS 1527 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,470 There have been multiple stories of CIS being assaulted or murdered in the 1528 00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:52,480 being assaulted or murdered in the 1529 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,830 being assaulted or murdered in the course of working for the police. In 1530 00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:53,840 course of working for the police. In 1531 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,669 course of working for the police. In fact, as this expert points out, there 1532 00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:55,679 fact, as this expert points out, there 1533 00:26:55,679 --> 00:26:58,070 fact, as this expert points out, there are a whole host of issues CIS raised, 1534 00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:58,080 are a whole host of issues CIS raised, 1535 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,830 are a whole host of issues CIS raised, but the limited nature of disclosure on 1536 00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:59,840 but the limited nature of disclosure on 1537 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,230 but the limited nature of disclosure on these operations means we don't know the 1538 00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:02,240 these operations means we don't know the 1539 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,190 these operations means we don't know the full extent of any of them. There is no 1540 00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:05,200 full extent of any of them. There is no 1541 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,230 full extent of any of them. There is no law enforcement entity or official in 1542 00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:08,240 law enforcement entity or official in 1543 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,230 law enforcement entity or official in this country that knows how many 1544 00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:10,240 this country that knows how many 1545 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,110 this country that knows how many informants there are, how many crimes 1546 00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:13,120 informants there are, how many crimes 1547 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:16,710 informants there are, how many crimes they solve, and how many crimes are 1548 00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:16,720 they solve, and how many crimes are 1549 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,269 they solve, and how many crimes are tolerated by law enforcement by the 1550 00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:19,279 tolerated by law enforcement by the 1551 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:21,190 tolerated by law enforcement by the informants that they run. 1552 00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:21,200 informants that they run. 1553 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,590 informants that they run. >> Exactly. And it is probably not a great 1554 00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:23,600 >> Exactly. And it is probably not a great 1555 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,510 >> Exactly. And it is probably not a great sign that we have less information about 1556 00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:25,520 sign that we have less information about 1557 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,430 sign that we have less information about confidential informants than we do about 1558 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:27,440 confidential informants than we do about 1559 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,269 confidential informants than we do about how many toilets Megan Trainer and her 1560 00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:29,279 how many toilets Megan Trainer and her 1561 00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:31,590 how many toilets Megan Trainer and her spy kid husband have. And it's not just 1562 00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:31,600 spy kid husband have. And it's not just 1563 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,710 spy kid husband have. And it's not just information on confidential. You know 1564 00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:32,720 information on confidential. You know 1565 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,669 information on confidential. You know what? I don't think I was actually clear 1566 00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:33,679 what? I don't think I was actually clear 1567 00:27:33,679 --> 00:27:36,070 what? I don't think I was actually clear about that. They have two They have two 1568 00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:36,080 about that. They have two They have two 1569 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,390 about that. They have two They have two toilets right next to each other so they 1570 00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:38,400 toilets right next to each other so they 1571 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,870 toilets right next to each other so they can piss and presumably together 1572 00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:40,880 can piss and presumably together 1573 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,029 can piss and presumably together without breaking eye contact. That is 1574 00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:43,039 without breaking eye contact. That is 1575 00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:44,549 without breaking eye contact. That is from their old house. They've since 1576 00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:44,559 from their old house. They've since 1577 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:47,269 from their old house. They've since moved and are opting for a quote knees 1578 00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:47,279 moved and are opting for a quote knees 1579 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:50,149 moved and are opting for a quote knees to knees setup. Yeah, I don't like 1580 00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:50,159 to knees setup. Yeah, I don't like 1581 00:27:50,159 --> 00:27:52,149 to knees setup. Yeah, I don't like knowing this about them either, but at 1582 00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:52,159 knowing this about them either, but at 1583 00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:55,029 knowing this about them either, but at least we're on the same page now. 1584 00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:55,039 least we're on the same page now. 1585 00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,110 least we're on the same page now. Anyway, it's not just information on 1586 00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:57,120 Anyway, it's not just information on 1587 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,870 Anyway, it's not just information on confidential informants. Public data on 1588 00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:58,880 confidential informants. Public data on 1589 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,269 confidential informants. Public data on stings in general is extremely limited, 1590 00:28:01,269 --> 00:28:01,279 stings in general is extremely limited, 1591 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:03,110 stings in general is extremely limited, partly because they're usually not 1592 00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:03,120 partly because they're usually not 1593 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:05,110 partly because they're usually not subject to public disclosure laws. And 1594 00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:05,120 subject to public disclosure laws. And 1595 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,590 subject to public disclosure laws. And that mixed with a near limitless ability 1596 00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:07,600 that mixed with a near limitless ability 1597 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,590 that mixed with a near limitless ability for cops to target anyone they want is a 1598 00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:09,600 for cops to target anyone they want is a 1599 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,830 for cops to target anyone they want is a truly dangerous combination. And if you 1600 00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:11,840 truly dangerous combination. And if you 1601 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,789 truly dangerous combination. And if you want to see everything that we've 1602 00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:12,799 want to see everything that we've 1603 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:14,549 want to see everything that we've discussed tonight in one place, just 1604 00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:14,559 discussed tonight in one place, just 1605 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:16,630 discussed tonight in one place, just look at counterterrorism stings. After 1606 00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:16,640 look at counterterrorism stings. After 1607 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,870 look at counterterrorism stings. After 911, the FBI went hard in trying to 1608 00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:18,880 911, the FBI went hard in trying to 1609 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,470 911, the FBI went hard in trying to preemptively stop the next big terror 1610 00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:20,480 preemptively stop the next big terror 1611 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,789 preemptively stop the next big terror attack. One hallmark of this involves 1612 00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:22,799 attack. One hallmark of this involves 1613 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:25,190 attack. One hallmark of this involves stings targeted at Muslim communities 1614 00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:25,200 stings targeted at Muslim communities 1615 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,110 stings targeted at Muslim communities and these cases resulted in a lot of 1616 00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:27,120 and these cases resulted in a lot of 1617 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:28,950 and these cases resulted in a lot of convictions. A survey two years ago 1618 00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:28,960 convictions. A survey two years ago 1619 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,870 convictions. A survey two years ago found that out of 992 terrorism 1620 00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:30,880 found that out of 992 terrorism 1621 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,190 found that out of 992 terrorism defendants since 911, just three have 1622 00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:33,200 defendants since 911, just three have 1623 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,430 defendants since 911, just three have been acquitted and four have seen their 1624 00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:35,440 been acquitted and four have seen their 1625 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,870 been acquitted and four have seen their charges dropped or dismissed, giving the 1626 00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:36,880 charges dropped or dismissed, giving the 1627 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,029 charges dropped or dismissed, giving the Justice Department a near perfect record 1628 00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:39,039 Justice Department a near perfect record 1629 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:41,029 Justice Department a near perfect record of conviction when it comes to terrorism 1630 00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:41,039 of conviction when it comes to terrorism 1631 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:44,470 of conviction when it comes to terrorism cases. But that same report also found 1632 00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:44,480 cases. But that same report also found 1633 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,470 cases. But that same report also found that the majority of defendants had no 1634 00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:46,480 that the majority of defendants had no 1635 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,830 that the majority of defendants had no direct connection to terrorist 1636 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:47,840 direct connection to terrorist 1637 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,389 direct connection to terrorist organizations at all. And over a third 1638 00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:50,399 organizations at all. And over a third 1639 00:28:50,399 --> 00:28:52,950 organizations at all. And over a third had been caught up in FBI stings. And 1640 00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:52,960 had been caught up in FBI stings. And 1641 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,430 had been caught up in FBI stings. And some of those were incredibly dicey, 1642 00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:55,440 some of those were incredibly dicey, 1643 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,870 some of those were incredibly dicey, like the case of these four men in 1644 00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:56,880 like the case of these four men in 1645 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,269 like the case of these four men in Newberg, New York, who the FBI claimed 1646 00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:59,279 Newberg, New York, who the FBI claimed 1647 00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:00,789 Newberg, New York, who the FBI claimed planned to attack synagogues and an 1648 00:29:00,789 --> 00:29:00,799 planned to attack synagogues and an 1649 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:02,630 planned to attack synagogues and an airport. And at the time, they trumpeted 1650 00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:02,640 airport. And at the time, they trumpeted 1651 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,110 airport. And at the time, they trumpeted the arrests as a huge deal. 1652 00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:05,120 the arrests as a huge deal. 1653 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,269 the arrests as a huge deal. >> We have breaking news. The FBI says it 1654 00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:07,279 >> We have breaking news. The FBI says it 1655 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:09,590 >> We have breaking news. The FBI says it has thwarted a terror plot. Federal 1656 00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:09,600 has thwarted a terror plot. Federal 1657 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,669 has thwarted a terror plot. Federal investigators say the suspects are four 1658 00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:11,679 investigators say the suspects are four 1659 00:29:11,679 --> 00:29:14,310 investigators say the suspects are four men with a shared hatred for America. 1660 00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:14,320 men with a shared hatred for America. 1661 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,470 men with a shared hatred for America. >> According to the FBI, the four men 1662 00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:16,480 >> According to the FBI, the four men 1663 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,590 >> According to the FBI, the four men intended to carry out their plan today. 1664 00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:19,600 intended to carry out their plan today. 1665 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,070 intended to carry out their plan today. >> The good news here is that our FBI and 1666 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:22,080 >> The good news here is that our FBI and 1667 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,990 >> The good news here is that our FBI and our NYPD did a very, very good job. The 1668 00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:26,000 our NYPD did a very, very good job. The 1669 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,870 our NYPD did a very, very good job. The fact that we've been able to penetrate 1670 00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:28,880 fact that we've been able to penetrate 1671 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,590 fact that we've been able to penetrate these groups early on, they were being 1672 00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:31,600 these groups early on, they were being 1673 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,590 these groups early on, they were being monitored for close to a year. This is 1674 00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:33,600 monitored for close to a year. This is 1675 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,430 monitored for close to a year. This is truly a a textbook example of how a a a 1676 00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:37,440 truly a a textbook example of how a a a 1677 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,510 truly a a textbook example of how a a a major investigation uh should be 1678 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:39,520 major investigation uh should be 1679 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,549 major investigation uh should be conducted. 1680 00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:40,559 conducted. 1681 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:42,310 conducted. >> That sounds pretty impressive, doesn't 1682 00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:42,320 >> That sounds pretty impressive, doesn't 1683 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,909 >> That sounds pretty impressive, doesn't it? But you should know while friend of 1684 00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:43,919 it? But you should know while friend of 1685 00:29:43,919 --> 00:29:45,669 it? But you should know while friend of the Bailey's Chuck Schumer there was 1686 00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:45,679 the Bailey's Chuck Schumer there was 1687 00:29:45,679 --> 00:29:47,350 the Bailey's Chuck Schumer there was bragging that the FBI was able to 1688 00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:47,360 bragging that the FBI was able to 1689 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,350 bragging that the FBI was able to penetrate the group very early on, the 1690 00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:49,360 penetrate the group very early on, the 1691 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,510 penetrate the group very early on, the reason for that is they're the ones who 1692 00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:51,520 reason for that is they're the ones who 1693 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,269 reason for that is they're the ones who put the group together in the first 1694 00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:53,279 put the group together in the first 1695 00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:55,990 put the group together in the first place. The entire plan was concocted by 1696 00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:56,000 place. The entire plan was concocted by 1697 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,750 place. The entire plan was concocted by the FBI. So, I guess it really was 1698 00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:57,760 the FBI. So, I guess it really was 1699 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,909 the FBI. So, I guess it really was textbook if the textbook was called How 1700 00:29:59,909 --> 00:29:59,919 textbook if the textbook was called How 1701 00:29:59,919 --> 00:30:01,590 textbook if the textbook was called How to Solve Crimes When You're the One 1702 00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:01,600 to Solve Crimes When You're the One 1703 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,070 to Solve Crimes When You're the One Doing Them. The truth is, none of the 1704 00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:04,080 Doing Them. The truth is, none of the 1705 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,510 Doing Them. The truth is, none of the four men arrested were militants. They 1706 00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:05,520 four men arrested were militants. They 1707 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,269 four men arrested were militants. They were, however, impoverished individuals, 1708 00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:07,279 were, however, impoverished individuals, 1709 00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:08,789 were, however, impoverished individuals, one of whom had severe mental health 1710 00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:08,799 one of whom had severe mental health 1711 00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:10,549 one of whom had severe mental health issues. They were recruited by an 1712 00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:10,559 issues. They were recruited by an 1713 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,630 issues. They were recruited by an informant who promised them huge 1714 00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:12,640 informant who promised them huge 1715 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,990 informant who promised them huge financial inducements to carry out the 1716 00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:14,000 financial inducements to carry out the 1717 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,950 financial inducements to carry out the plot, including $250,000, free holidays, 1718 00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:16,960 plot, including $250,000, free holidays, 1719 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,950 plot, including $250,000, free holidays, and expensive cars. And that informant 1720 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:18,960 and expensive cars. And that informant 1721 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,110 and expensive cars. And that informant then did everything for the men, from 1722 00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:21,120 then did everything for the men, from 1723 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,870 then did everything for the men, from getting the missile and bombs to 1724 00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:22,880 getting the missile and bombs to 1725 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,389 getting the missile and bombs to teaching them the tenets of radical 1726 00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:24,399 teaching them the tenets of radical 1727 00:30:24,399 --> 00:30:26,389 teaching them the tenets of radical Islam. One of their attorneys actually 1728 00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:26,399 Islam. One of their attorneys actually 1729 00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:28,149 Islam. One of their attorneys actually summed up the whole situation pretty 1730 00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:28,159 summed up the whole situation pretty 1731 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:30,630 summed up the whole situation pretty succinctly. The government conceded at 1732 00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:30,640 succinctly. The government conceded at 1733 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,630 succinctly. The government conceded at trial that these four defendants never 1734 00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:32,640 trial that these four defendants never 1735 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,909 trial that these four defendants never had a plan, never had done this before, 1736 00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:35,919 had a plan, never had done this before, 1737 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:38,470 had a plan, never had done this before, had no technology ability to this, had 1738 00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:38,480 had no technology ability to this, had 1739 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,630 had no technology ability to this, had no access to these kind of weapons, had 1740 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:40,640 no access to these kind of weapons, had 1741 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,470 no access to these kind of weapons, had no access to the money of this to make 1742 00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:42,480 no access to the money of this to make 1743 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,470 no access to the money of this to make these kind of bombs, had no access to 1744 00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:44,480 these kind of bombs, had no access to 1745 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,230 these kind of bombs, had no access to terrorists to come up with the ideas, 1746 00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:46,240 terrorists to come up with the ideas, 1747 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,430 terrorists to come up with the ideas, had no access to anything, 1748 00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:49,440 had no access to anything, 1749 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,909 had no access to anything, even cars. These four defendants were no 1750 00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:51,919 even cars. These four defendants were no 1751 00:30:51,919 --> 00:30:54,070 even cars. These four defendants were no more capable of firing a stinger missile 1752 00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:54,080 more capable of firing a stinger missile 1753 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,149 more capable of firing a stinger missile or creating a bomb than you know Tony 1754 00:30:58,149 --> 00:30:58,159 or creating a bomb than you know Tony 1755 00:30:58,159 --> 00:30:59,990 or creating a bomb than you know Tony the Tiger could make a bomb frosted 1756 00:30:59,990 --> 00:31:00,000 the Tiger could make a bomb frosted 1757 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,470 the Tiger could make a bomb frosted flights box. Yeah, that is both 1758 00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:02,480 flights box. Yeah, that is both 1759 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,870 flights box. Yeah, that is both infuriating and completely true right up 1760 00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:04,880 infuriating and completely true right up 1761 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,110 infuriating and completely true right up to his claim about Tony the Tiger 1762 00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:07,120 to his claim about Tony the Tiger 1763 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,190 to his claim about Tony the Tiger because I I know this isn't the point. 1764 00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:09,200 because I I know this isn't the point. 1765 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,789 because I I know this isn't the point. Tony the Tiger is a fictional character. 1766 00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:10,799 Tony the Tiger is a fictional character. 1767 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:12,470 Tony the Tiger is a fictional character. Therefore, in his world, he is capable 1768 00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:12,480 Therefore, in his world, he is capable 1769 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,630 Therefore, in his world, he is capable of anything, including bomb making. Now, 1770 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:14,640 of anything, including bomb making. Now, 1771 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,590 of anything, including bomb making. Now, do I believe the good folks at Kelloggs 1772 00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:17,600 do I believe the good folks at Kelloggs 1773 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,510 do I believe the good folks at Kelloggs would put a bomb maker on their cereal 1774 00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:19,520 would put a bomb maker on their cereal 1775 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,789 would put a bomb maker on their cereal box? No. But could Tony conceptually 1776 00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:22,799 box? No. But could Tony conceptually 1777 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:24,470 box? No. But could Tony conceptually build a bomb in the universe he 1778 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:24,480 build a bomb in the universe he 1779 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,830 build a bomb in the universe he inhabits? Of course he could. And by 1780 00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:25,840 inhabits? Of course he could. And by 1781 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,430 inhabits? Of course he could. And by that logic, you can make the case that 1782 00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:27,440 that logic, you can make the case that 1783 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,110 that logic, you can make the case that he was actually more equipped to do 1784 00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:29,120 he was actually more equipped to do 1785 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,029 he was actually more equipped to do terrorism than these people the FBI 1786 00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:31,039 terrorism than these people the FBI 1787 00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:33,510 terrorism than these people the FBI railroad did for no reason. 1788 00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:33,520 railroad did for no reason. 1789 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,190 railroad did for no reason. Ultimately, the men were sentenced in 1790 00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:35,200 Ultimately, the men were sentenced in 1791 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,909 Ultimately, the men were sentenced in 2011 to a mandatory minimum of 25 years 1792 00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:37,919 2011 to a mandatory minimum of 25 years 1793 00:31:37,919 --> 00:31:40,070 2011 to a mandatory minimum of 25 years in prison. Although three years ago, the 1794 00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:40,080 in prison. Although three years ago, the 1795 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,830 in prison. Although three years ago, the judge in their case granted a motion for 1796 00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:41,840 judge in their case granted a motion for 1797 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,950 judge in their case granted a motion for compassionate release, calling their 1798 00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:42,960 compassionate release, calling their 1799 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,350 compassionate release, calling their conduct heinous, but acknowledging the 1800 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:45,360 conduct heinous, but acknowledging the 1801 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,669 conduct heinous, but acknowledging the real lead conspirator was the United 1802 00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:47,679 real lead conspirator was the United 1803 00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:49,990 real lead conspirator was the United States, which depressingly is pretty 1804 00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:50,000 States, which depressingly is pretty 1805 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,630 States, which depressingly is pretty much modern world history in a sentence. 1806 00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:52,640 much modern world history in a sentence. 1807 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,350 much modern world history in a sentence. And you can see just how tempting it is 1808 00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:55,360 And you can see just how tempting it is 1809 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,950 And you can see just how tempting it is for law enforcement to do this, 1810 00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:56,960 for law enforcement to do this, 1811 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,710 for law enforcement to do this, especially whenever there is a panic 1812 00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:58,720 especially whenever there is a panic 1813 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,710 especially whenever there is a panic about a certain population. More 1814 00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:00,720 about a certain population. More 1815 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,549 about a certain population. More recently, it has been immigrants. You 1816 00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:02,559 recently, it has been immigrants. You 1817 00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:03,990 recently, it has been immigrants. You may remember when Trump and the media 1818 00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:04,000 may remember when Trump and the media 1819 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,350 may remember when Trump and the media were freaking out about that video that 1820 00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:05,360 were freaking out about that video that 1821 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,430 were freaking out about that video that supposedly proved trend aragua gangs 1822 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:07,440 supposedly proved trend aragua gangs 1823 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,509 supposedly proved trend aragua gangs were taking over Colorado apartment 1824 00:32:09,509 --> 00:32:09,519 were taking over Colorado apartment 1825 00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:11,350 were taking over Colorado apartment complexes. It was undeniably a 1826 00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:11,360 complexes. It was undeniably a 1827 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,269 complexes. It was undeniably a frightening image. And in the wake of 1828 00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:13,279 frightening image. And in the wake of 1829 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,669 frightening image. And in the wake of that, the ATF ran a sting operation in 1830 00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:15,679 that, the ATF ran a sting operation in 1831 00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:17,430 that, the ATF ran a sting operation in that town with undercover agents 1832 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:17,440 that town with undercover agents 1833 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,029 that town with undercover agents offering large sums of money to vene 1834 00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:19,039 offering large sums of money to vene 1835 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:20,950 offering large sums of money to vene Venezuelan immigrants to procure them 1836 00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:20,960 Venezuelan immigrants to procure them 1837 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,430 Venezuelan immigrants to procure them guns and drugs. And last summer, DOJ 1838 00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:23,440 guns and drugs. And last summer, DOJ 1839 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,789 guns and drugs. And last summer, DOJ officials called a press conference to 1840 00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:24,799 officials called a press conference to 1841 00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:27,029 officials called a press conference to proudly show off the results. In a 1842 00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:27,039 proudly show off the results. In a 1843 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,190 proudly show off the results. In a matter of minutes, we learned this was 1844 00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:29,200 matter of minutes, we learned this was 1845 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,269 matter of minutes, we learned this was far more than a news conference about 1846 00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:31,279 far more than a news conference about 1847 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:34,870 far more than a news conference about arrests, drugs, and guns. The 10-month 1848 00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:34,880 arrests, drugs, and guns. The 10-month 1849 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,870 arrests, drugs, and guns. The 10-month undercover operation produced 30 1850 00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:36,880 undercover operation produced 30 1851 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,950 undercover operation produced 30 arrests, including three described as 1852 00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:38,960 arrests, including three described as 1853 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,430 arrests, including three described as TDA leaders, along with five other 1854 00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:41,440 TDA leaders, along with five other 1855 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,149 TDA leaders, along with five other alleged TDA members. The others labeled 1856 00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:44,159 alleged TDA members. The others labeled 1857 00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:47,590 alleged TDA members. The others labeled as actively involved in TDA criminal 1858 00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:47,600 as actively involved in TDA criminal 1859 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,149 as actively involved in TDA criminal activity. TDA has brought its terrorism 1860 00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:50,159 activity. TDA has brought its terrorism 1861 00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:52,870 activity. TDA has brought its terrorism to the United States. TDA is real. It is 1862 00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:52,880 to the United States. TDA is real. It is 1863 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,789 to the United States. TDA is real. It is dangerous. and we have made prosecuting 1864 00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:54,799 dangerous. and we have made prosecuting 1865 00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:56,789 dangerous. and we have made prosecuting TDA a priority in the District of 1866 00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:56,799 TDA a priority in the District of 1867 00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:57,830 TDA a priority in the District of Colorado. 1868 00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:57,840 Colorado. 1869 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,750 Colorado. >> Okay, so there is a lot to unpack there 1870 00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:59,760 >> Okay, so there is a lot to unpack there 1871 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,269 >> Okay, so there is a lot to unpack there from the elaborate work that went into 1872 00:33:01,269 --> 00:33:01,279 from the elaborate work that went into 1873 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:04,230 from the elaborate work that went into their massive gun diarama to what is in 1874 00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:04,240 their massive gun diarama to what is in 1875 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,909 their massive gun diarama to what is in those baggies because it looks to me 1876 00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:05,919 those baggies because it looks to me 1877 00:33:05,919 --> 00:33:08,870 those baggies because it looks to me like pink panther Jes. But the thing is, 1878 00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:08,880 like pink panther Jes. But the thing is, 1879 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,630 like pink panther Jes. But the thing is, as one reporter has since put it, the 1880 00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:10,640 as one reporter has since put it, the 1881 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,789 as one reporter has since put it, the results of that sting in court have 1882 00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:12,799 results of that sting in court have 1883 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:14,710 results of that sting in court have failed to back up the hype because 1884 00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:14,720 failed to back up the hype because 1885 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,230 failed to back up the hype because finally suggests most of the people 1886 00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:16,240 finally suggests most of the people 1887 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,830 finally suggests most of the people charged weren't actually gang members at 1888 00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:17,840 charged weren't actually gang members at 1889 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,029 charged weren't actually gang members at all, but a loose collection of 1890 00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:19,039 all, but a loose collection of 1891 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,630 all, but a loose collection of impoverished and desperate immigrants 1892 00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:20,640 impoverished and desperate immigrants 1893 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,789 impoverished and desperate immigrants drawn in by offers of cash. In fact, 1894 00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:22,799 drawn in by offers of cash. In fact, 1895 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:24,870 drawn in by offers of cash. In fact, when it comes to those firearms, it's 1896 00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:24,880 when it comes to those firearms, it's 1897 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,789 when it comes to those firearms, it's worth knowing many of the drugs and guns 1898 00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:26,799 worth knowing many of the drugs and guns 1899 00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:28,470 worth knowing many of the drugs and guns weren't in the defenders of possession 1900 00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:28,480 weren't in the defenders of possession 1901 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,549 weren't in the defenders of possession before the government got involved. So, 1902 00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:30,559 before the government got involved. So, 1903 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:32,470 before the government got involved. So, the feds basically dangled money in 1904 00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:32,480 the feds basically dangled money in 1905 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,909 the feds basically dangled money in front of a bunch of desperate people, 1906 00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:33,919 front of a bunch of desperate people, 1907 00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:36,630 front of a bunch of desperate people, said, "Go get us guns," and they did it. 1908 00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:36,640 said, "Go get us guns," and they did it. 1909 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,549 said, "Go get us guns," and they did it. And all that really proves is that for 1910 00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:38,559 And all that really proves is that for 1911 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:39,830 And all that really proves is that for enough money, you can basically get 1912 00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:39,840 enough money, you can basically get 1913 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,750 enough money, you can basically get people to do anything, which not for 1914 00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:41,760 people to do anything, which not for 1915 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,190 people to do anything, which not for nothing was, I believe, also the 1916 00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:43,200 nothing was, I believe, also the 1917 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,870 nothing was, I believe, also the official slogan of the Riyad Comedy 1918 00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:44,880 official slogan of the Riyad Comedy 1919 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,110 official slogan of the Riyad Comedy Festival. The point here is the long 1920 00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:49,120 Festival. The point here is the long 1921 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,909 Festival. The point here is the long history of police things has far too 1922 00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:51,919 history of police things has far too 1923 00:33:51,919 --> 00:33:53,750 history of police things has far too often left us with a bunch of fake 1924 00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:53,760 often left us with a bunch of fake 1925 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,830 often left us with a bunch of fake crimes from manufactured criminals 1926 00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:55,840 crimes from manufactured criminals 1927 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,830 crimes from manufactured criminals resulting in very real punishments. And 1928 00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:57,840 resulting in very real punishments. And 1929 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,549 resulting in very real punishments. And look, I am not saying the crimes you've 1930 00:34:00,549 --> 00:34:00,559 look, I am not saying the crimes you've 1931 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,070 look, I am not saying the crimes you've seen people arrested for tonight don't 1932 00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:02,080 seen people arrested for tonight don't 1933 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,230 seen people arrested for tonight don't happen. Of course they do. People do 1934 00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:04,240 happen. Of course they do. People do 1935 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,149 happen. Of course they do. People do sell drugs in schools, traffic guns, 1936 00:34:06,149 --> 00:34:06,159 sell drugs in schools, traffic guns, 1937 00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:07,590 sell drugs in schools, traffic guns, planned terror attacks, and molest 1938 00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:07,600 planned terror attacks, and molest 1939 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,669 planned terror attacks, and molest children. And those crimes should be 1940 00:34:09,669 --> 00:34:09,679 children. And those crimes should be 1941 00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,790 children. And those crimes should be investigated. The problem with stings is 1942 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:12,800 investigated. The problem with stings is 1943 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,470 investigated. The problem with stings is they're an easy way for police to rack 1944 00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:14,480 they're an easy way for police to rack 1945 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,550 they're an easy way for police to rack up arrest and sell the illusion that 1946 00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:16,560 up arrest and sell the illusion that 1947 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,470 up arrest and sell the illusion that they're addressing these crimes, even 1948 00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:18,480 they're addressing these crimes, even 1949 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,869 they're addressing these crimes, even when that may not actually be the case. 1950 00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:20,879 when that may not actually be the case. 1951 00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:22,550 when that may not actually be the case. Remember that county in Florida where 1952 00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:22,560 Remember that county in Florida where 1953 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,909 Remember that county in Florida where Grady Jud loves to hold press 1954 00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:23,919 Grady Jud loves to hold press 1955 00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:26,149 Grady Jud loves to hold press conferences about his online sex things? 1956 00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:26,159 conferences about his online sex things? 1957 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:27,829 conferences about his online sex things? It's currently being sued by this woman 1958 00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:27,839 It's currently being sued by this woman 1959 00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:30,230 It's currently being sued by this woman who came to them at age 12 because she'd 1960 00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:30,240 who came to them at age 12 because she'd 1961 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:31,669 who came to them at age 12 because she'd been sexually abused by her adoptive 1962 00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:31,679 been sexually abused by her adoptive 1963 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,550 been sexually abused by her adoptive father for years. The investigation by 1964 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:34,560 father for years. The investigation by 1965 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,470 father for years. The investigation by Justice Department was an absolute 1966 00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:36,480 Justice Department was an absolute 1967 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,869 Justice Department was an absolute disgrace. The detective who handled her 1968 00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:38,879 disgrace. The detective who handled her 1969 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:40,710 disgrace. The detective who handled her case failed to collect key evidence and 1970 00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:40,720 case failed to collect key evidence and 1971 00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:42,790 case failed to collect key evidence and as her supervisor later wrote conducted 1972 00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:42,800 as her supervisor later wrote conducted 1973 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,909 as her supervisor later wrote conducted her interview of the girl using 1974 00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:43,919 her interview of the girl using 1975 00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:46,230 her interview of the girl using inappropriate questions and statements. 1976 00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:46,240 inappropriate questions and statements. 1977 00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:48,149 inappropriate questions and statements. Judge's department ultimately wound up 1978 00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:48,159 Judge's department ultimately wound up 1979 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:49,990 Judge's department ultimately wound up charging the girl with giving false 1980 00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:50,000 charging the girl with giving false 1981 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,589 charging the girl with giving false information to a law enforcement officer 1982 00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:51,599 information to a law enforcement officer 1983 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:53,030 information to a law enforcement officer for which she was placed on probation 1984 00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:53,040 for which she was placed on probation 1985 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,190 for which she was placed on probation and also made to write these letters of 1986 00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:55,200 and also made to write these letters of 1987 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,910 and also made to write these letters of apology to both her abuser and the 1988 00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:57,920 apology to both her abuser and the 1989 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,150 apology to both her abuser and the sheriff's office. It was only after she 1990 00:35:00,150 --> 00:35:00,160 sheriff's office. It was only after she 1991 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,310 sheriff's office. It was only after she was abused again, during which she had 1992 00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:02,320 was abused again, during which she had 1993 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,069 was abused again, during which she had the presence of mind to take photos and 1994 00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:04,079 the presence of mind to take photos and 1995 00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:05,910 the presence of mind to take photos and video of the incident on her phone, that 1996 00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:05,920 video of the incident on her phone, that 1997 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,589 video of the incident on her phone, that her abuser was finally arrested and 1998 00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:07,599 her abuser was finally arrested and 1999 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:09,750 her abuser was finally arrested and sentenced to 17 years in prison, which 2000 00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:09,760 sentenced to 17 years in prison, which 2001 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,710 sentenced to 17 years in prison, which is clearly infuriating. She basically 2002 00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:12,720 is clearly infuriating. She basically 2003 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,630 is clearly infuriating. She basically had to do that department's work for 2004 00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:14,640 had to do that department's work for 2005 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,190 had to do that department's work for them. And it makes you think that maybe 2006 00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:17,200 them. And it makes you think that maybe 2007 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,790 them. And it makes you think that maybe Grady Jud's office would have been a 2008 00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:18,800 Grady Jud's office would have been a 2009 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,390 Grady Jud's office would have been a little better at protecting an actual 2010 00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:20,400 little better at protecting an actual 2011 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,310 little better at protecting an actual child if they weren't spending all day 2012 00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:22,320 child if they weren't spending all day 2013 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,430 child if they weren't spending all day pretending to be one online. Now, Jud 2014 00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:25,440 pretending to be one online. Now, Jud 2015 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,349 pretending to be one online. Now, Jud never responded to us when we asked him 2016 00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:27,359 never responded to us when we asked him 2017 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,109 never responded to us when we asked him about this, but apparently I still have 2018 00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:29,119 about this, but apparently I still have 2019 00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:30,710 about this, but apparently I still have to tell you that they've called that 2020 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:30,720 to tell you that they've called that 2021 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,950 to tell you that they've called that woman's lawsuit frivolous and baseless. 2022 00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:32,960 woman's lawsuit frivolous and baseless. 2023 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,030 woman's lawsuit frivolous and baseless. And I don't know, man. When you've made 2024 00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:35,040 And I don't know, man. When you've made 2025 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,109 And I don't know, man. When you've made a literal child write a letter of 2026 00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:37,119 a literal child write a letter of 2027 00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:38,710 a literal child write a letter of apology to her rapist, I wouldn't be 2028 00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:38,720 apology to her rapist, I wouldn't be 2029 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,109 apology to her rapist, I wouldn't be throwing the word frivolous around, I 2030 00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:41,119 throwing the word frivolous around, I 2031 00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:42,790 throwing the word frivolous around, I might just shut the up about 2032 00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:42,800 might just shut the up about 2033 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,710 might just shut the up about everything for the rest of my 2034 00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:44,720 everything for the rest of my 2035 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:47,750 everything for the rest of my life. But I guess reasonable people can 2036 00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:47,760 life. But I guess reasonable people can 2037 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,990 life. But I guess reasonable people can agree to disagree there. 2038 00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:50,000 agree to disagree there. 2039 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,790 agree to disagree there. And when you put all this together, it's 2040 00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:52,800 And when you put all this together, it's 2041 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,630 And when you put all this together, it's hard not to conclude that stings might 2042 00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:54,640 hard not to conclude that stings might 2043 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,790 hard not to conclude that stings might actually be doing more harm than good. 2044 00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:56,800 actually be doing more harm than good. 2045 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,589 actually be doing more harm than good. So what do we do? Well, I would argue at 2046 00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:59,599 So what do we do? Well, I would argue at 2047 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:01,990 So what do we do? Well, I would argue at the very least cops should be doing much 2048 00:36:01,990 --> 00:36:02,000 the very least cops should be doing much 2049 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,750 the very least cops should be doing much less of them and ideally none of the 2050 00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:03,760 less of them and ideally none of the 2051 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,670 less of them and ideally none of the stings where the goal is basically find 2052 00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:05,680 stings where the goal is basically find 2053 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,390 stings where the goal is basically find anybody for anything. As one expert put 2054 00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:08,400 anybody for anything. As one expert put 2055 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,310 anybody for anything. As one expert put it, if we're going to do stings, they 2056 00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:10,320 it, if we're going to do stings, they 2057 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,750 it, if we're going to do stings, they should be narrowly focused on 2058 00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:11,760 should be narrowly focused on 2059 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,109 should be narrowly focused on individuals who law enforcement have 2060 00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:13,119 individuals who law enforcement have 2061 00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:14,870 individuals who law enforcement have credible evidence may be planning to 2062 00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:14,880 credible evidence may be planning to 2063 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,470 credible evidence may be planning to commit a serious or violent crime 2064 00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:16,480 commit a serious or violent crime 2065 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,109 commit a serious or violent crime imminently or who've already done so and 2066 00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:19,119 imminently or who've already done so and 2067 00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:20,950 imminently or who've already done so and are planning to do so again. Which seems 2068 00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:20,960 are planning to do so again. Which seems 2069 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,150 are planning to do so again. Which seems right to me because as it stands, police 2070 00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:24,160 right to me because as it stands, police 2071 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,230 right to me because as it stands, police seem utterly addicted to stings, even 2072 00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:26,240 seem utterly addicted to stings, even 2073 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,310 seem utterly addicted to stings, even though for what it's worth, making up 2074 00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:28,320 though for what it's worth, making up 2075 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,750 though for what it's worth, making up imaginary crimes and arresting people 2076 00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:29,760 imaginary crimes and arresting people 2077 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,829 imaginary crimes and arresting people for them isn't law enforcement. It is 2078 00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:31,839 for them isn't law enforcement. It is 2079 00:36:31,839 --> 00:36:34,790 for them isn't law enforcement. It is theater. In fact, the one reform that 2080 00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:34,800 theater. In fact, the one reform that 2081 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,790 theater. In fact, the one reform that might actually be within all our control 2082 00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:36,800 might actually be within all our control 2083 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,030 might actually be within all our control right now is to try and remember that we 2084 00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:39,040 right now is to try and remember that we 2085 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,430 right now is to try and remember that we are all the audience for that theater. 2086 00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:41,440 are all the audience for that theater. 2087 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,750 are all the audience for that theater. So, if you are serving on a jury or work 2088 00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:43,760 So, if you are serving on a jury or work 2089 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,990 So, if you are serving on a jury or work in the media or you see a story on TV 2090 00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:46,000 in the media or you see a story on TV 2091 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,430 in the media or you see a story on TV about a sting operation, it's worth 2092 00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:47,440 about a sting operation, it's worth 2093 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,430 about a sting operation, it's worth questioning what role law enforcement 2094 00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:49,440 questioning what role law enforcement 2095 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,510 questioning what role law enforcement played in creating the crime that they 2096 00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:51,520 played in creating the crime that they 2097 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,150 played in creating the crime that they just supposedly stopped. Honestly, we 2098 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:54,160 just supposedly stopped. Honestly, we 2099 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,430 just supposedly stopped. Honestly, we first started looking at this story a 2100 00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:55,440 first started looking at this story a 2101 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,670 first started looking at this story a few years ago, and it has changed how 2102 00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:57,680 few years ago, and it has changed how 2103 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,430 few years ago, and it has changed how I've viewed every sting story that's 2104 00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:59,440 I've viewed every sting story that's 2105 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,270 I've viewed every sting story that's made headlines since. Remember when that 2106 00:37:01,270 --> 00:37:01,280 made headlines since. Remember when that 2107 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,870 made headlines since. Remember when that group of men were arrested for trying to 2108 00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:02,880 group of men were arrested for trying to 2109 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,950 group of men were arrested for trying to kidnap Gretch and Whitmer? Guess how 2110 00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:04,960 kidnap Gretch and Whitmer? Guess how 2111 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,790 kidnap Gretch and Whitmer? Guess how many confidential informants seem to 2112 00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:06,800 many confidential informants seem to 2113 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,390 many confidential informants seem to help that plot along? I'll give you a 2114 00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:08,400 help that plot along? I'll give you a 2115 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,390 help that plot along? I'll give you a clue. It is a lot more than you would 2116 00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:10,400 clue. It is a lot more than you would 2117 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,550 clue. It is a lot more than you would like. And you don't have to sympathize 2118 00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:12,560 like. And you don't have to sympathize 2119 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,950 like. And you don't have to sympathize with these men or agree with their views 2120 00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:14,960 with these men or agree with their views 2121 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,630 with these men or agree with their views to wonder if that plan could have even 2122 00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:16,640 to wonder if that plan could have even 2123 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,470 to wonder if that plan could have even gotten off the ground if there hadn't 2124 00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:18,480 gotten off the ground if there hadn't 2125 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,230 gotten off the ground if there hadn't been as many as a dozen confidential 2126 00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:20,240 been as many as a dozen confidential 2127 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,390 been as many as a dozen confidential informants involved and two undercover 2128 00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:22,400 informants involved and two undercover 2129 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,270 informants involved and two undercover federal agents. The point here is cops 2130 00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:25,280 federal agents. The point here is cops 2131 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,870 federal agents. The point here is cops have been getting away with 2132 00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:26,880 have been getting away with 2133 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,950 have been getting away with stings for far too long and we just 2134 00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:28,960 stings for far too long and we just 2135 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,589 stings for far too long and we just cannot let this slide anymore. In fact, 2136 00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:31,599 cannot let this slide anymore. In fact, 2137 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:33,430 cannot let this slide anymore. In fact, there's really only one type of cop 2138 00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:33,440 there's really only one type of cop 2139 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,910 there's really only one type of cop sliding that I am completely on board 2140 00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:35,920 sliding that I am completely on board 2141 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:43,670 sliding that I am completely on board with and I think we all know what it is. 2142 00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:43,680 2143 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,910 you, Paul Thomas Anderson. THAT IS 2144 00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:45,920 you, Paul Thomas Anderson. THAT IS 2145 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,150 you, Paul Thomas Anderson. THAT IS THE BEST PICTURE OF ANY GODDAMN YEAR 2146 00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:48,160 THE BEST PICTURE OF ANY GODDAMN YEAR 2147 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,230 THE BEST PICTURE OF ANY GODDAMN YEAR right there. That is our show. Thanks so 2148 00:37:50,230 --> 00:37:50,240 right there. That is our show. Thanks so 2149 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:51,349 right there. That is our show. Thanks so much for watching. We'll see you next 2150 00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:51,359 much for watching. We'll see you next 2151 00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:56,790 much for watching. We'll see you next week. Good night. 2152 00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:59,349 2153 00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:59,359 2154 00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:02,470 What the 2155 00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:05,589 What the 2156 00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:08,390 2157 00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:11,400